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Im not sure Id say these are new rulings moreso than talked thru to get to the ruling. Simply reading would of the rules should of made these fairly easy to answer.
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In this case, the character is gaining Perplex, so the source of the Perplex is the character itself and not the gem (and thus coming from a character with the KC team symbol.)
So following that reasoning, using the Power Gem to give RCE and CCE to a KC character now works fine too, which again I'm pretty sure is a reversal from before.
Annoying as I remember it working differently but if that's how it works now, whatever. I've got more important hills to die on
So following that reasoning, using the Power Gem to give RCE and CCE to a KC character now works fine too, which again I'm pretty sure is a reversal from before.
Annoying as I remember it working differently but if that's how it works now, whatever. I've got more important hills to die on
It sure seems that this ruling is different than what the previous understanding was.
From no less an authority than LJ:
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I don't know, I think there's a difference between Perplexing Superman +1, and GIVING Superman perplex to use for himself.
If someone gives KC Superman Perplex, can he give KC Green Lantern +1 to a combat value?
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No. All that matters is the original source of the effect. If the source is not a character with the KC TA symbol, it will not be able to modify their values.
If another game element says a character "can use" something, then that game element is the source, not the character.
The original rulings were a misunderstanding, and overly complicated things. This is effectively a reversal, and based on this ruling, CCE/ESD/etc. now function as expected.
Because I completely agree with you, here are some actually helpful links:
Well thank you. I didn't want to have a wall of hypertext up on the page but it seems like the site cut down the link. You learn something new everyday.
They say the best weapon is one you never have to fire. I respectfully disagree. I prefer the weapon you only have to fire once. That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far." Robert Downey/Tony Stark
Well thank you. I didn't want to have a wall of hypertext up on the page but it seems like the site cut down the link. You learn something new everyday.
If you were worried about long links, you could have just done this:
They say the best weapon is one you never have to fire. I respectfully disagree. I prefer the weapon you only have to fire once. That's how Dad did it, that's how America does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far." Robert Downey/Tony Stark
The original rulings were a misunderstanding, and overly complicated things. This is effectively a reversal, and based on this ruling, CCE/ESD/etc. now function as expected.
The original rulings weren't a misunderstanding of any kind. It was fairly clear how they wanted things to work. The thing to keep in mind is that this was all happening in the midst of huge shifts in both design and rules philosophies. Things change.
The concept of an effects "source" was difficult for people to understand, because it was an irrelevant concept in this game outside of these specific characters. I understand their desire at the time to use this concept as a workaround for the rampant modifiers going around in the game at the time; keep in mind this trait came out while Power Batteries, Phoenix Force, and other Resources were still a cornerstone of the game. That context is important.
So now with the new ruling on that gem I can go play KC green lantern with his 20 defense and equip the Asgardian shield. That's actually nuts. I can't believe they reversed that ruling.
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I think you mean the Yellow Lantern/Fear bonus and that applies to the attacking character and not the defender and would have been fine.
I do not mean the yellow fear bonus, he was playing the orange lantern to cancel out the powers he wanted gone.
EMOTIONAL SPECTRUM: GREED: If the Power Battery, attached Power Ring, and Constructs are all the same color, give the Power Battery a power action and choose a power, combat ability or team ability that a friendly Corps member can use. Opposing characters can't use that power or ability until your next turn.
Essentially he wanted to gain +2 to his defense on KC Shazam and ensure you could not receive the same benefit. I told him he still had those powers for the purpose of his battery, but would not receive the defense bonuses.
I also had enough of this guy's cheese from the previous few weeks and showed up with the violet lantern giving JW Bane the nurse with the auto regen feat. That along with calculator and Shiva and bane was swinging with a 15 attack a whole lot of damage and healing automatically every turn.
You could take any random player from the game and listen to their complaints. You could change everything to be exactly how they asked. At the end of the day they'd spend an hour complaining about pandering while pissed off that they have nothing left to complain about.