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MY KIND OF ALLIES: When establishing themed teams, characters on your starting force with the Asgardian or Deity keyword gain the Spider-Man Family keyword.
WW80 #001, #041, #062 have the trait:
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SHIFTING FOCUS: WONDER WOMAN: FREE: If Wonder Woman began your turn on the map, replace her with another character with this trait. // When Wonder Woman uses Shifting Focus: Wonder Woman while equipped with a Wonder Woman Equipment, remove that object from the game and don't score it instead of unequipping it.
WW80 #062 has the Deity keyword; #001 and #042 do not.
If WW80 #062 is on my starting force with Mary Jane and gains the Spider-Man Family keyword, then uses Shifting Focus to be replaced by #001 from my sideline, does the #001 have (keep) the Spider-Man Family keyword?
If ”No” to question 1: if that same #001 then uses Shifting Focus (on my next turn) to be replaced by the #062 that had been on my starting force (and went to my sideline), does the #062 (still) have the Spider-Man Family keyword?
If someone could kindly point me to where in the Comprehensive Rulebook or etc covers this issue, I’d be grateful. I’m back in the game after a year or two away, I’m sure this must have been hashed out in that time but nothing useful is popping up in search on the WKRF or here.
24.2a Determining Themed Teams
In order for a starting force to become a themed team, when you reveal your force during step 1 of Game Setup, you must choose a single keyword that all characters on your starting force share. If all your characters share more than one keyword, pick only one.
Theme Teams are established at the start of the game.
Any character brought into the game after that won't gain the Spiderman Family keyword.
If any of the sentences would make more sense if the verb (or any other word) was a negative please treat it as such.
24.2a Determining Themed Teams
In order for a starting force to become a themed team, when you reveal your force during step 1 of Game Setup, you must choose a single keyword that all characters on your starting force share. If all your characters share more than one keyword, pick only one.
Theme Teams are established at the start of the game.
Any character brought into the game after that won't gain the Spiderman Family keyword.
This rule is really for the best, given the various ways that figures can come into the game. Otherwise, one of the nastier tricks would be to form a Hellfire Club (becoming X-Men) "team up" with HoX Emma Frost and Blackheart and then make all the newly spawned Hellfire Club Guards into X-Men (for the purposes of Emma's ).
Also gonna add a couple rules references here just to be, well, comprehensive.
Quote : Originally Posted by 24.1b Gaining/Losing Keywords
If a character gains or loses a keyword, it does so for the rest of the game even if that effect (granting or removing the keyword) is later lost.
Quote : Originally Posted by 22.12a Replacing Rules
When an effect causes a character to be replaced:
If the replaced character had action tokens, each replacement character is assigned the same number of action tokens. If the replacement effect caused an action token to be given, the replacement character is considered to have received the action token.
If the replaced character was given a costed action this turn, then the replacement character is considered to have already been given a costed action this turn. The same is true for having been carried.
Only the above effects carry over to the new character. No other effects of any kind that applied to the replaced character start applying to the replacement character
There's a lot more to that second rule, but I think that was enough to answer the question.
So they’ve considered this scenario as handled under sections 22 and 24, and haven’t seen a need to address it specifically. Fair enough.
“No” to my first question; the gained keyword doesn’t “transfer.” Gotcha. To my second question—
I take it that, under 22.12a point three, the #062 Wonder Woman that went to the sideline (in my example) would:
continue to have the Spider-Man Family keyword (that she gained at the beginning of the game from her and Mary Jane being on my starting force at that time) while on the sideline (not that it could matter, because she can only be referenced on the sideline for the Shifting Focus effect that put her there, which doesn’t care about the keyword), and
keep it when swapped back off the sideline and onto the battlefield.
That is to say, “once that specific figure gets the keyword ‘this game,’ the keyword goes with that specific figure wherever it may travel during that game.”
So they’ve considered this scenario as handled under sections 22 and 24, and haven’t seen a need to address it specifically. Fair enough.
I take it that, under 22.12a point three, the #062 Wonder Woman that went to the sideline (in my example) would continue to have the Spider-Man Family keyword that she gained at the beginning of the game (from her and Mary Jane being on my starting force at that time), and would keep it if swapped back off the sideline and onto the battlefield? That is to say, “once that specific figure gets the keyword ‘this game,’ the keyword goes with that figure wherever it may travel during that game.” (?)
If I use Data's trait to gain a Deduction token and then use Shifting Focus, what happens to the tokens?
The tokens remain on Data when he moves to your Sideline. They would return with him if he were to return to the map.
And the Comprehensive rules have this to say about action tokens off the map:
Quote : Originally Posted by 9.4a Additional Clear Phase Clarifications
Characters off the map but still on your force or Sideline must also clear their action tokens if applicable.
Quote : Originally Posted by 15.3a Additional “Removed From the Map” Clarifications
If, before the character was removed from the map, it activated or triggered an effect with a delayed resolution or trigger, the effect will still resolve. For example, if a character activated the standard power Barrier and then is removed from the map, the markers will remain and be removed at the beginning of your next turn.
Characters off the map clear action tokens as normal during the Clear Phase, but they trigger no effects as a result.
Thus, between these three, and no rules being present saying that you lose effects upon going to the Sideline/being removed from the map(but not KO'd) that I am aware of, I would assume that any character moved to the Sideline would retain anything applying to them at the time they were moved there for the normal duration of the effect unless specifically stated otherwise.
And the Comprehensive rules have this to say about action tokens off the map:
Thus, between these three, and no rules being present saying that you lose effects upon going to the Sideline/being removed from the map(but not KO'd) that I am aware of, I would assume that any character moved to the Sideline would retain anything applying to them at the time they were moved there for the normal duration of the effect unless specifically stated otherwise.
Thanks much - that Data ruling is exactly the sort of thing I was looking for. Much obliged!
So this all makes sense, but raises an interesting corollary - it sort of doesn't matter that only #062 has the Deity keyword, right?
For example, all three SF Wonder Woman figures have the Warrior keyword. But if they were on a team with Spider-Viking (whose My Kind Of Allies is "Pirate or Warrior"), and later in the game I wanted Wonder Woman to be Call In Help From The Spider-Verse'd, I'd have to make sure I switched back to whichever specific SF WW had been on the starting force, because that one (and only that one) would still have the SMF keyword.