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What is the exact timing of mind controlled characters. By that I mean how long are they under your contol? Let me give you two scenarios.
I have a MCer. I MC my opponent's MCer. I then MC a TKer who is adjacent to the mind controlled MCer. Can I TK the MCer without making an attack roll? Or since he rolled his attack, does he revert back to my opponent's control?
Again, I have a MCer. I MC my opponent's MCer. I then MC another one of my opponent's MCer. If you answered above that the first MCer reverts back to my oppenent's control after the attack is rolled, can I then use the second MCed character to MC my opponent's first MCer? Since you no longer assign tokens to MC, can I do this into infinity (assuming all attack rolls hit)?
Do the scenarios make sense as to what I am asking? I will try to reword if people are confused.
What is the exact timing of mind controlled characters. By that I mean how long are they under your contol? Let me give you two scenarios.
I have a MCer. I MC my opponent's MCer. I then MC a TKer who is adjacent to the mind controlled MCer. Can I TK the MCer without making an attack roll? Or since he rolled his attack, does he revert back to my opponent's control?
The MC Action isn't resolved untl all the free actions associated with it are resolved. In this case the Opponents MCer is still friendly to you until all his targets resolve thier free actions, so no roll is needed to TK him with the TKer that he MCed. Rolling the attack doesn't resolve the assigned action, it only resolves the attack. Just like with HSS or TMA, somethings need to happen after the attack is resolved in order to resolve the action.
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Again, I have a MCer. I MC my opponent's MCer. (Call this one A) I then MC another one of my opponent's MCer. (we'll call this one B) If you answered above that the first MCer reverts back to my oppenent's control after the attack is rolled, can I then use the second MCed character to MC my opponent's first MCer? Since you no longer assign tokens to MC, can I do this into infinity (assuming all attack rolls hit)?
Do the scenarios make sense as to what I am asking? I will try to reword if people are confused.
No, because as I stated above, the MCer will remain friendly until all free actions associated with its action are resolved. In this case, A will remain friendly until B resolves it free action which includes resolving the action assigned to what ever other figure (say C) it targets.
Hope that helps.
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I've got a question concerning Mind Control & Probability Control. What happen if I choose to control an opponent with Proba Control & another target ? Can I reroll an attack made by this character (or by another one) using his own PC ? And if my opponent use this PC sooner during the turn, can I still use it (since it can be used once during my turn and since MC state that "all powers return") or not ?
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I've got a question concerning Mind Control & Probability Control. What happen if I choose to control an opponent with Proba Control & another target ? Can I reroll an attack made by this character (or by another one) using his own PC ? And if my opponent use this PC sooner during the turn, can I still use it (since it can be used once during my turn and since MC state that "all powers return") or not ?
No, i believe you can't.Since you already made an attack using the PC fig, you can't use it's PC on a succeding attack.
You could still use the PC from the mind controlled character but that would count as the free action given by mindcontrol. After using PC that character becomes friendly to your opponent's force again. At least that's my understanding of it.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough : let's use an example. I use Karma MC to control Black Cat and Daredevil. I give Daredevil a range combat action to strike (let's say) Spider-man ; I roll for attack and miss. Since Black Cat has PC and PC is not an action at all, and since Black Cat is still under my control (she hasn't act yet), can I use Black Cat's PC to reroll Daredevil's attack ? Or does the free action granted by MC end just when the first roll fails ?
And if my opponent has already used Black Cat's PC during this turn (for example on the initial MC attack roll), can I still use it ? This is my big issue here, since PC states it can be used only once during my turn and MC states that all the powers of the controlled character come back.
Maybe I wasn't clear enough : let's use an example. I use Karma MC to control Black Cat and Daredevil. I give Daredevil a range combat action to strike (let's say) Spider-man ; I roll for attack and miss. Since Black Cat has PC and PC is not an action at all, and since Black Cat is still under my control (she hasn't act yet), can I use Black Cat's PC to reroll Daredevil's attack ? Or does the free action granted by MC end just when the first roll fails ?
She can use her PC. The free action attack of Daredevil isn't resolved until the attack is complete, which if you have PC it isn't complete.
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And if my opponent has already used Black Cat's PC during this turn (for example on the initial MC attack roll), can I still use it ? This is my big issue here, since PC states it can be used only once during my turn and MC states that all the powers of the controlled character come back.