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Critical Miss? MC feedback damage? Literally anything that a character would do to itself and was not done (even indirectly) by an opposing character?
Those scenarios are the ones I was talking about.
Hey, I was just pulling stuff out of my butt, ya know? If it had to do with damage, I put it on there.
That's first pass. For the second pass, you look a little closely and take away more.
Kinda like writing a term paper, you put crap on there about anything you can think of that may be related and then you edit it and take out the things that don't make sense.
On a separate note, I just realized that if the people designing the powers, describe it to and have it written by the programmers of HCO first then you would have the power in a form that cannot be misinterpreted. And then from there after testing out and debugging the virtual version of the power, it can be translated into English onto the card. I think you would have less problems with powers.
Kinda like writing a term paper, you put crap on there about anything you can think of that may be related and then you edit it and take out the things that don't make sense.
I'm so glad I never wrote a paper like this.
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lol, I'm not taking your bait... let's just go with your sarcastic but improved wording:
What bait!? Either using your scenario you can provide IMPROVED wording to clarify or you cannot. If you cannot then you must consider they had that exact same scenario list and likewise couldn't improve the wording. Basically it boils down to this; put your theory to practice and provide us with improved wording or accept your theory as a failure. Or, more likely, you can just sit back and critique without offering any practical solutions, the internet is good for that. You might want to find some other forums for that though.
Cheers,
Jon Id Schultz
aqhoffman- greatest post possibly ever
jtallday- Jon I wouldn't challenge you if I wasn't sure you are wrong cuz I don't have that kind of energy.
What bait!? Either using your scenario you can provide IMPROVED wording to clarify or you cannot. If you cannot then you must consider they had that exact same scenario list and likewise couldn't improve the wording. Basically it boils down to this; put your theory to practice and provide us with improved wording or accept your theory as a failure. Or, more likely, you can just sit back and critique without offering any practical solutions, the internet is good for that. You might want to find some other forums for that though.
Cheers,
Jon Id Schultz
Who was it that said, there can never be a way to improve the way a rule is written because someone will always misinterpret it... was it IceHot? or Suttkus?
In case you didn't notice, the practical solution is to list out scenarios and then see if each can be answered. It's not necessarily about this particular SP and how to improve the wording. Although, based on the scenarios, I think "damage" could be made less ambiguous by saying:
PENANCE STARE: Ghost Rider deals penetrating damage to opposing characters that caused a friendly character to take damage since your last turn.
Who was it that said, there can never be a way to improve the way a rule is written because someone will always misinterpret it... was it IceHot? or Suttkus?
In case you didn't notice, the practical solution is to list out scenarios and then see if each can be answered. It's not necessarily about this particular SP and how to improve the wording. Although, based on the scenarios, I think "damage" could be made less ambiguous by saying:
PENANCE STARE: Ghost Rider deals penetrating damage to opposing characters that caused a friendly character to take damage since your last turn.
Everything else looks ok to me.
Not sure but they are right.
Wait... you're saying you think it's practical to take each and every new power and make a list of 5,10,15,20 possible scenarios and explain to people how each would be handled? Seriously!? Well... I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, lol. But you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
Cheers,
Jon Id Schultz
aqhoffman- greatest post possibly ever
jtallday- Jon I wouldn't challenge you if I wasn't sure you are wrong cuz I don't have that kind of energy.
Wait... you're saying you think it's practical to take each and every new power and make a list of 5,10,15,20 possible scenarios and explain to people how each would be handled? Seriously!? Well... I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, lol. But you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
Cheers,
Jon Id Schultz
Well if you wanna be thorough you would want to make a list of 5-20 possibilities wouldn't you? The less you think it through the more chance you have of having problems.
But, I like your idea of agreeing to disagree.
It's just my opinion and I do appreciate you discussing it further.
c'mon now Rowdy, you know what I mean. You put ideas down on paper, put them through several editing passes, develop them, polish them.
Every paper I wrote in college, save for one, was written in one long sitting of just typing and doing research at the same time. This is from 1 pagers all the way through the one 17 pager I did. The only one I didn't do like this ended up 23 pages long and had specific research and outline requirements.
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Who was it that said, there can never be a way to improve the way a rule is written because someone will always misinterpret it... was it IceHot? or Suttkus?
Well, I didn't say that, but something similar. What I was saying was that:
This rule is confusing or ambiguous
and
This rule will be misinterpreted by someone
are distinctly different concepts. The former needs fixed, the latter cannot be avoided.