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I'm just making sure this is correct. Assume the Hordes tokens do not have damage reducers or willpower for the purpose of these assertions.
1) Hordes and Poison - since a Horde is technically one character they only take one damage from Poison
2) Hordes and Mastermind - If I transfer 6 damage onto a Horde I remove 6 tokens
3) Hordes and In Betweener - If In-Betwener is on the back half of his dial (where Mystics deals 2 damage) and I push a Horde to attack, after the attack I remove 3 hordes tokens - 1 for pushing and 1 for each pt of mystics damage, since damage taken is not the result of the Horde being attacked.
4) Hordes and Pulse wave - Pulse wave lets me ignore powers and abilities, but Hordes is a Mechanic, hence regardless of what damage is dealt the Horde is still a single character for the purpose of this attack and 1 token is removed.
Is all that correct?
Edit: Sorry I was unclear, according to the 2013 rulebook to take effect in about 2 months, all of that is correct?
Last edited by llyrghmnghyll; 04/17/2013 at 09:46..
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2) All damage from mastermind is dealt at 1 time. So you would only remove 1 token.
3) No, 1 for Pushing and 1 for Mystics. The 2 Mystics damage is being dealt at the same time.
4) Correct, even if the Pulse Wave did more damage it would only be 1 figure.
Quote : Originally Posted by Necromagus
When I came on board as RA I brought with me a mission to meet the intent of a power/ability and a firm distaste for exploits or loopholes that circumvented the intention of a rule. That's where the Rules team comes in.
When a stack takes damage from an attack, regardless of the amount of damage taken, remove only one token from the stack.
Quote : Originally Posted by Necromagus
When I came on board as RA I brought with me a mission to meet the intent of a power/ability and a firm distaste for exploits or loopholes that circumvented the intention of a rule. That's where the Rules team comes in.
Right, but a couple of his scenarios do not involve attacks. So then we go to THIS line:
STACKS ON THE BATTLEFIELD
A stack of horde tokens is considered a single character for all purposes. When a stack takes damage from an attack, regardless of the amount of damage taken, remove only one token from the stack. When any other damage is dealt to the stack, remove one token for each click of damage. The token removed from the stack is defeated. A stack of horde tokens has a point value equal to the total point value of all horde tokens in the stack. A stack can’t be carried.
So Mastermind would remove 6 tokens, as he stated. And attacking In-Betweener would remove 3 (2 for super Mystics, then 1 for the push) total.
Right, but a couple of his scenarios do not involve attacks. So then we go to THIS line:
STACKS ON THE BATTLEFIELD
A stack of horde tokens is considered a single character for all purposes. When a stack takes damage from an attack, regardless of the amount of damage taken, remove only one token from the stack. When any other damage is dealt to the stack, remove one token for each click of damage. The token removed from the stack is defeated. A stack of horde tokens has a point value equal to the total point value of all horde tokens in the stack. A stack can’t be carried.
So Mastermind would remove 6 tokens, as he stated. And attacking In-Betweener would remove 3 (2 for super Mystics, then 1 for the push) total.
Well, I guess seeing the sentence and not reading the entire thing hurts... Hopefully by the weekend I will have a moment to actually read the new rules.
Quote : Originally Posted by Necromagus
When I came on board as RA I brought with me a mission to meet the intent of a power/ability and a firm distaste for exploits or loopholes that circumvented the intention of a rule. That's where the Rules team comes in.