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A lot of people like being dismissive and insulting, and when confronted by it, like to deflect and say they are attacking a group or attitude because they are afraid to own up to their own words.
Quote : Originally Posted by jwb441
This can be a negative place and there are many (good, bad, indifferent) reasons for that, but if in a thread where people are upset you say you are tired of all the "butthurt" (get a cream?) and someone takes offense, don't apologize that they got upset, and don't pretend like you weren't directing it at anybody. Own it and apologize for real or don't.
I criticized the atmosphere of the realms. I didn't dismiss or insult any posters, I didn't quote anyone when I made my comment, and have made it abundantly clear that I have an issue with certain attitudes, not any posters.
I'm not pretending, deflecting, or anything of the sort. Live up to your own credo of "owning up to your own words" and call me a liar if that's what you think, instead of tap dancing around it.
Quote : Originally Posted by Thrumble Funk
I don't think that's what Owlman is doing here.
Dude's got a point: the 'Realms is (and has been) a generally negative place. Two reasons for this:
1. You tend to get more mileage, convo wise, out of negativity than positivity (IMO).
2. We're nerds. Nerds #####. Almost incessantly.
I didn't see or take any attack from what Owlman said. ::shrugs::
See, Thrumble gets it.
Quote : Originally Posted by elfholme
I am not personally insulted by what he wrote, but I would submit that using a charged term like "butthurt" does nothing to help reduce whatever negativity exists on this site. #####ing about #####ing isn't productive; it just fosters more feelings of negativity.
I'm not going to call a turd a "pretty brown bum present" if I want everyone to join me in cleaning it up. To put it plainly, nobody's going to react to a sugarcoated ####. I want people to see a negative connotation in what I said; it was a criticism. Whether you agree and decide to combat that negativity or decide to make multiple posts trying to derive personal attacks from my message, well... I can't tell anyone what to do.
But you know what I do to combat negativity with positivity/productivity? I take the community's frustrations over poor communication about upcoming products and alleviate them with evidence threads.
I criticized the atmosphere of the realms. I didn't dismiss or insult any posters, I didn't quote anyone when I made my comment, and have made it abundantly clear that I have an issue with certain attitudes, not any posters.
I'm not pretending, deflecting, or anything of the sort. Live up to your own credo of "owning up to your own words" and call me a liar if that's what you think, instead of tap dancing around it.
See, Thrumble gets it.
I'm not going to call a turd a "pretty brown bum present" if I want everyone to join me in cleaning it up. To put it plainly, nobody's going to react to a sugarcoated ####. I want people to see a negative connotation in what I said; it was a criticism. Whether you agree and decide to combat that negativity or decide to make multiple posts trying to derive personal attacks from my message, well... I can't tell anyone what to do.
But you know what I do to combat negativity with positivity/productivity? I take the community's frustrations over poor communication about upcoming products and alleviate them with evidence threads.
Nah, I straight up called you a liar I thought that was pretty clear.
You don't make a post like that without a person or persons in mind, simple as that.
Nah, I straight up called you a liar I thought that was pretty clear.
You don't make a post like that without a person or persons in mind, simple as that.
Funny, but I did make a post like that without anyone in mind, and despite your continued personal attacks, I've yet to level one at you or anyone else.
I've backed away from realms lately, its too pitchfork and torchy for me.
Anytime there's a post on ANYTHING it seems like it just spirals into one of two situations: either pseudo-wannabe trolling and gets way off topic or super negativity and hate-circling on a particular subject.
Its just not "fun" to be here anymore. I used to be able to come here, talk about clix, have a good laugh. Now anytime anyone says anything everyone takes it as personal offense or anytime someone says even a minor thing POSITIVE about Wizkids they get destroyed in the following replies.
Its kinda sad to see everyone become cynical #######s to be blunt, you guys were at least cynical #######s that were fun before, now you've lost that.
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On topic
The Reddit AMA was fun, I asked a ton of questions, got a ton of answers. I was really happy they openly communicated with us like that. I really like Ziran, I've had issues with some Wizkids guys in the past but Ziran is okay in my book (he even answered my podcast interview question.) I hope this is the first step in a lot more community discussion in the future, Ziran did get in contact with the /r/Heroclix mod team so we'll see where that goes.
I criticized the atmosphere of the realms. I didn't dismiss or insult any posters, I didn't quote anyone when I made my comment, and have made it abundantly clear that I have an issue with certain attitudes, not any posters.
By criticizing the atmosphere of the realms you are criticizing the posters because they are one and the same in this case. So either you were criticizing everyone or you were criticizing a few individuals under the guise of criticizing everyone.