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Damage depletion modifier and missing the first attack.
Can't get a solid ruling on the forums so I'm bring it up here.
So a while back I was playing Super Doom. I had enough tokens to make two attacks.
I swung with my first attack and missed. Second attack I hit.
My friend then tells me that DDM kicks in because i hit with my second attack. I told him no, DDM only kicks in if the first attack has dealt damage and that since the first attack missed and dealt no damage the second attack is not affect by DDM.
So I question you the folks, who's right?
"The past is DEAD. The present, Annihilus, is WAR."
Doesn't the DDM definition state "Each time an attack resolves"? So it doesn't matter whether you deal damage or not, it's just the attack happening.
Yes it does, but the rules also quote this
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THE ATTACK ROLL
To determine whether or not an attack succeeds,
the attacking player rolls 2d6 (the attack roll) and
adds the result to the attacker’s attack value. The
sum is the Attack Total. If the Attack Total is equal
to or greater than the target’s defense value, the
attack succeeds and is a hit (it is a successful
attack roll); otherwise, it fails and is a miss.
If an attack misses, damage is not dealt by the
attack. Certain game effects allow characters to
evade a hit – evading a hit turns it into a miss.
and this
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NO DAMAGE
An attack that deals no damage ignores modifiers
to the damage value. Attacks that deal no damage
deal neither critical hit damage to the target nor
critical miss damage to the attacker (see Rolling
2 and 12: Critical Misses and Critical Hits, below).
Attacks that deal no damage do not activate the
Damage Depletion Modifier.
"The past is DEAD. The present, Annihilus, is WAR."
The No Damage quote is irrelevant here. That's for powers like Incap or Mind Control.
DDM states "each time when an attack resolves". it doesn't say "when an attack deals damage" or "when an attack hits". Just that it resolves. I attack, i miss, that attack resolves.
Contrary to popular belief, I do know what I'm doing
THE ODDS ARE AGAINST ME: At the end of your turn, if Superdoom was given a non-free action this turn and an opposing force has more characters on the map than your force, place an Outnumbered token on this card. Give Superdoom a free action and remove 2 Outnumbered tokens from this card to make a close or ranged combat attack.
Just a thought. The DDM should not kick in because there is only one free attack being made.
However, if your non-free action was an attack that missed and then you used the trait to make a second attack as a free action, then yea DDM kicks in.