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Sooooo this guy looks like he needs a gofundme for a taco!
Why the dismissal stats? I could maybe see the mechanic with stop clicks. Im assuming I missed something. Lol
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I think he's pretty balanced. He'll be crazy if you don't kill him in 2 hits.
I do think he'd be much more dangerous and accurate with some plasticity though.
Alrighty, we fed him a taco and poked him with a stick a few times, and he’s DEFINITELY meaner than before!
After reviewing point values across a few sets, I lowered his value to something more appropriate (for vampire dials in particular, I noticed that Wizkids only costs what’s a guarantee instead of full potential). I’ve added that Venom can deal damage to make his Maddening Hunger trait more likely to happen. Finally, I made him more or less consistent with other symbiotes by giving him traited Leap/Climb & Plasticity.
Thank you both so much for your feedback! Let me know if these changes worked!
The trick with this guy was making a piece that got stronger as it fought, but could also recover health. This is what I came up with, but maybe it’s not the most elegant approach?
#060 Agent Venom
Real Name: Flash Thompson
Team: Thunderbolts
Range: 6
Points: 100/75
Keywords: Cosmic, Spaceknight, Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy, S.H.I.E.L.D., Soldier, Spider-Man Family, Thunderbolts
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Combat Symbiote: Leap/Climb Tentacle-controlled ordinance.: Agent Venom has , Blades/Claws/Fangs, and Steal Energy. Losing Control: For the rest of the game, Agent Venom cannot be healed past this point.
Sooooo this guy looks like he needs a gofundme for a taco!
Why the dismissal stats? I could maybe see the mechanic with stop clicks. Im assuming I missed something. Lol
The stats look bad. Until you realize that his "took some damage" stat boosts have NO EXPIRATION.
Then you see exactly how worth it this Venom is. If he takes damage from three separate attacks, he's a nigh-insurmountable monster for the rest of the game.
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Penance was a phenomenal character in every respect. Don't let anyone tell you differently. Add to that the fact that his kinetic energy powers were registered at Hulk level, and he might just be the single most underrated Thunderbolt character ever.
#061 Penance
Real Name: Robbie Baldwin
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6
Points: 100/75
Keywords: Thunderbolts, New Warriors, Celebrity, Teen
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Fueled by Pain: Perplex, but only to modify his Attack or Damage values. After he does and uses a Non-Free Action, deal him 1 unavoidable damage. Kinetic Explosion: POWER: Choose a square within Penance's range and line of sight. Penance may use Pulse Wave as if he occupied that space. This deals Knockback.
As much as I hate hate hated Penance, I dig the dial. Feels like the character, has a lot of raw power to him, should be very dangerous on the field and worth every point on whichever dial you choose to use.
But alas, he's still Penance. Instead of griping, I'll just let Squirrel Girl do it for me.
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As much as I hate hate hated Penance, I dig the dial. Feels like the character, has a lot of raw power to him, should be very dangerous on the field and worth every point on whichever dial you choose to use.
But alas, he's still Penance. Instead of griping, I'll just let Squirrel Girl do it for me.
Haha really appreciate it! I loved this comic. Think my favorite part back in the day was when he was smashing his head against a wall yelling, "I'M DEEP NOW!" All said, totally understand anyone who prefers the non-90s-esque version of Speedball. This might date me a bit, but I think Penance was my introduction to the character
No idea why Daniel Way put Mercy on his Thunderbolts team.
#062 Mercy
Real Name: Abigail Mercy Wright
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 7
Points: 125/100
Keywords: Thunderbolts, Mystical, Monster, Hulkbusters
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I’ll Take the Pain Away...: When an opposing character takes damage from an attack, after resolutions, deal that character 1 unavoidable damage. If that character is not KO'd, immediately heal it 1 click. I Have So Many More to Save...: Toughness & Regeneration.
Thanks to everyone who suggested this piece! I'd never read any of Screaming Mimi's appearances, and I was fascinated to discover just how different a powerset she has from Songbird.
#063 Screaming Mimi
Real Name: Melissa Gold
Team: Masters of Evil
Range: 6
Points: 75/50
Keywords: Masters of Evil, Femizons, Brute, Celebrity
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Sonic Undulations: Pulse Wave. Instead of dealing damage, all hit targets reduce the same combat stat by one. If the attack roll was a critical hit, assign each hit target an action token.
Penance Stare: Whenever an opposing character deals combat damage, place 1 Vengeance marker on their card. Ghost Rider has +1 Damage to that character for every Vengeance token on their card. Hellfire Motorcycle: Hypersonic Speed. Ignores Elevated & Hindering Terrain for movement. After using Hypersonic Speed, lay 4 Smoke Cloud markers in spaces Ghost Rider moves through. Opposing characters occupying those spaces take 1 Damage.
Gotta say, Thunderbolts dun Ghost Rider wrong by putting him on the team. Poor choice for a poor team, and the ending run, Punisher vs. Thunderbolts? If anyone understood character, it would've been Ghost Rider vs. Thunderbolts.
Ghost Rider is one of those characters that I feel like Heroclix hasn't done poorly by yet. Every time he's come up, I've found him to be useful and/or dangerous, and always accompanied by a kick-butt sculpt.
Your take on Mister Blaze is no exception. Well, except in the sculpt category, but I always imagine a sculpt or two with these kinds of sets, so...
I really dig that Penance Stare. It feels reminiscent to how I remember it working in Avengers Alliance on Facebook, with every action the opposing team takes racking up more and more "Sin" statuses, bolstering his damage against them.
My one curiosity question is what kind of base would you put him on? Standard or Peanut?
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Ghost Rider is one of those characters that I feel like Heroclix hasn't done poorly by yet. Every time he's come up, I've found him to be useful and/or dangerous, and always accompanied by a kick-butt sculpt.
Your take on Mister Blaze is no exception. Well, except in the sculpt category, but I always imagine a sculpt or two with these kinds of sets, so...
I really dig that Penance Stare. It feels reminiscent to how I remember it working in Avengers Alliance on Facebook, with every action the opposing team takes racking up more and more "Sin" statuses, bolstering his damage against them.
My one curiosity question is what kind of base would you put him on? Standard or Peanut?
Gigantic thanks, No-Name! Ghost Rider is my favorite character of all time, so I'm pleased to hear that his dial landed!
Hmmm... I'd try to match the cover pose here, so I might go with a peanut base. Still, I do like the pre-carded standard bases!
EDIT: Though if I'm honest, I kinda hate ADW Ghost Rider. Amazing sculpt, and mechanically cool as a bystander/small character-buster, but it doesn't meet my base-minimum requirements for Ghost Rider: highly-mobile move and attack ability (Charge, Running Shot, or Hypersonic Speed); Penetrating Damage; Toughness; Regeneration; and Mystics. I feel like Ghost Rider got lumped into that set's JW-style "travel in a direct path" gimmick : /
I've given the Dark Avengers Bendis runs plenty of grief, but here's where I make the unpopular sentiment that I'm not wild about Parker's Thunderbolts and especially not his Dark Avengers. There are some great moments, sure -Ghost's origin story is superlative- but I think the issue is that his stories are driven by a neverending process of "and then" leaving no breathing room for character development and character-driven events. His team just keeps falling into stuff all willy-nilly.
I say all this because I got the sense that Parker was just starting to figure out what to do with Ragnarok by the time his series closed, but by that point, the team had hung out in alternate dimensions with side-characters that supplanted the main team long enough as to render it all moot.
#065 Ragnarok
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 7
Points: 150/125
Keywords: Asgardian, Dark Avengers, Robot
I've given the Dark Avengers Bendis runs plenty of grief, but here's where I make the unpopular sentiment that I'm not wild about Parker's Thunderbolts and especially not his Dark Avengers. There are some great moments, sure -Ghost's origin story is superlative- but I think the issue is that his stories are driven by a neverending process of "and then" leaving no breathing room for character development and character-driven events. His team just keeps falling into stuff all willy-nilly.
I say all this because I got the sense that Parker was just starting to figure out what to do with Ragnarok by the time his series closed, but by that point, the team had hung out in alternate dimensions with side-characters that supplanted the main team long enough as to render it all moot.
#065 Ragnarok
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 7
Points: 150/125
Keywords: Asgardian, Dark Avengers, Robot
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Haha, I completely forgot he went bald! That should be referenced somewhere in his flavor text like Hypersonic speed..."Went and got a haircut"!
Winning the game means little if it is not with the characters that I would want to win!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I really wonder if Daniel Way originally pitched the Thunderbolts relaunch as an all-Hulk enemy team and got shot down.
#066 Red Leader
Real Name: Samuel Sterns
Team: Thunderbolts
Range: 7
Points: 75/50
Keywords: Scientist, Gamma, Intelligencia, Thunderbolts
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Mind over Matter!: +3 Attack when Red Leader uses Mind Control, Force Blast, Telekinesis, or Incapacitate. Negotiate a Deal with the Devil: When a friendly character would be KOed, instead give Red Leader a Double Power action (must have no action tokens), and ignore damage done to that character.
I definitely dig that Leader, even though I have no reading experience with his red incarnation (I'm just wondering when Red Abomination is gonna show up). Mind Over Matter makes him immensely and deceptively playable, which is exactly what the Leader should be. You wonder how he could ever pose a threat to someone like The Hulk, and then he somehow manages to do just that.
Is there supposed to be a special damage power as well, or is one of those traits the Damage Power?
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