Reason I didn't use it and was only as a last resort. By the time you guys took me down the damage was done and I only had to wait for my recruits to hopefully win and get me a victory.

It was a JOH game and my abilities/pages were quite nasty.

Considering Town likely includes someone called the Son of Satan I can see how someone not versed in the source material could be finding it safer to ask.

Haha, no I didn't mean based on the name.

What I meant was, if someone had sent me a page, that then forced me to go and kill a Townie...well, I might think the person who gave me the page wasn't very nice.

If he were here, do you think its possible he might cop as evil and still be town, assuming he were in the game?

I'm going to remove vote for now.

Considering Shadow40's and Truffles claim, I would like to hear what H&C has to say. It certainly wouldn't hurt for him to character claim at the very least.

Looking at the write up, Darkhold Dwarf forces me to kill JoH. Possibly/probably SK. Someone is incinarated. And someone targets someone who is already dead. JoH? So, SK, and two mafias? Or does one of those look like a vig?

The one who killed CaptainNifty (and scorched him), I would say is the SK.
The other failed attempt was on JoH "arrived at his warm corpse" not "pile of ashes".
I don't really see two mafias.

Also Remove Vote
Until we hear from H&C.

I don't trust Truffles claim.

Why? I can easily see the character being here.

You've been pretty anti everyone being suspicious of H&C all day.

I think Shadow40's evidence against him is and has been strong.

Huh? Two people target JoH. I'm assuming Pilix was targeting with the intention to kill, otherwise why would he/she be there. One incinerates Nifty. Looks like three kill attempts.

If the dwarf is not the SK, what do you think he is?

And Darq, that actually makes me feel good.

1) If I remember, Raydar has a minor appearance, quite easy to use as a fake claim

2) Truffles was *informed* she was turned into a killer? That just seems to me to lay alibis for the entire game.

If she had come on immediately, and said "someone forced me to kill JoH", I'd blieve her.

If Truffles turns out to be good, then we need to take a good long look at H&C as the Dwarf.

Is it unlikely to have two SKs?

I was pointing out that due to the nature of the attack on Nifty, it sounded more like an SK move.

Or maybe the Dwarf is the SK, and the one who burned Nifty was a Vig.
But who could the other mafia be besides Lilith's group?
As the one who burned Nifty could be Zarathos.

Raydar had 2 or so issues devoted to him and played/was supposed to play an important part in the story. He was soooo close to being a Deus Ex Machina.

I'm not sure what she could have done differently, granted, you're the one who was apparently told you were enveloped in darkness or some such.

Do you deny that the Dwarf is in the game? Pretty sure we see him clearly in the write up.

We need to look at H&C because his role claim has been busted and he neglected to claim a character. The latter being something that typically annoys you in game.

Yes, I was informed. I was given a note. Upon reading it I was filled with rage and killed JoH. It's right there in the write up.