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CAN WE GET SOME SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM UDE ON THIS ISSUE ALREADY?!!!
[CAPSLOCK]UDE has never announced "okay guys, we're working on the problem, and we'll let you know if card X gets the axe or not after extensive in-house playtesting." The closest they've come to this is saying they were *not* going to ban anything before PCLA. R&D has to do a lot of testing to make sure that Frankie is a truly degenerate card. They can't just look at the decklists in this thread and say "wow, I wouldn't want to play against THAT at the PC...hm, let's ban Frankie!"
They're working on it as we speak. They'll let the community know their decision (to ban or not to ban) at least a month before Sydney. Just be patient, this thread was posted *two* days ago.[/CAPSLOCK]
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to spid3rm4n again."
I know this is my first post in this behemoth thread, but I figured rep-trolling was okay. On topic, I also dislike little Frankie, and wouldn't mind her getting the boot. That's my opinion. Trust me. I know what I'm talking about. Seriously. Really, trust that it's my opinion. Seriously.
CAN WE GET SOME SORT OF ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM UDE ON THIS ISSUE ALREADY?!!!
There is a weekly Metagame article that is dedicated to "news". Scott even said that he also reads posts on the boards. Don't expect IMMEDIATE responses, give it a week at least. This isn't PCLA ... there's a bit more time before the event itself. And they aren't going to make an 'acknowledgement' like "we're thinking about it" ... it would likely be a "yes we are" or "no we aren't". They'll probably want to make a decision before they say it either way.
There is no good reason for UDE to not get someone to write a one paragraph article acknowledging they feel there is some cause for concern and they are getting R&D to look at it. The fact that they historically have not is just plain bad policy and should be changed. It would help foster the illusion they actually give a damn about this game despite it being mid-january and the schedule of tournaments for January, February and March not being posted and no reason mentioned for its delay.
Just because they could deal with us MORE and treat us BETTER doesn't mean you're entitled to a blowjob, so back off the sleeping UDE Rep.
-Mike
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The fact that they historically have not is just plain bad policy
It's not bad policy; it's being professional. Making a single definite announcement about UDE's intentions looks better than making multiple announcements saying "okay, we have seen your complaints and are responding."; "okay, now we've tested a bit, and are leaning towards a banning, but aren't quite sure yet."; "okay, we've decided to ban this card."; "okay, here's an article explaining WHY we banned this card." I'll say it again; this thread was posted TWO DAYS ago. Give them time to sort through things. Posting multiple "updates" makes UDE look unsure of their actions, especially when those updates don't say anything other than "we're working on it."
Yes its stupid to give updates at every single step of the process to the public. But if the concern is raised in public its appropriate for a company to make a single announcement saying they are looking into the matter before publishing their findings. Just about every major company and just about every democratic government does this.
There is no good reason for UDE to not get someone to write a one paragraph article acknowledging they feel there is some cause for concern and they are getting R&D to look at it....
Except that it's not feasible for them to answer every thread wanting their response (especially in the threads themselves). Not only is responding to every cry for UDE attention not necessary, especially when they have a medium for such responses already, but it would set a bad precedent. Specifically, not only would each response garner 12 more questions and expectations for further responses, but it would raise all sorts of issues as to which threads UDE should respond to, how many times, to whom, how in depth their responses should be, etc. etc. That's the tip of the ice berg.
I also wish that UDE would post more informative content, more frequently on metagame, but I simultaneously don't think that they need to start responding on realms to keep their fingers on the pulse of the game.
Lastly, realms is not the end-all-be-all of VS, as great as she is.
Metagame is more central, and the best choice upon which to post news.
I think it would be appropriate for someone to maybe make a post in the thread to say, "We're talking about the issues" or "We'll put it on the agenda" but there's two problems with that.
1, They're still in the middle of a huge restructure and relaunch. I would HOPE they're all kinda ####in' busy right now with that and debating Frankie's potential for banning.
2, If they do it once it's expected of them in the future and maybe it's not always appropriate.
For the record i support the ban as well, though i dont know how much it counts for.
As a player, i think Vs is such a mess that i dont think i will ever recapture the want to play it i had before. Banning Frankie will have no bearing on whether or not i play again, but the errors in design and development this game has worn definitely pushed me away from a game i barely recognise anymore.
As a TO and store manager, they HAVE to ban Frankie, but they also have to stop printing free characters, have a firmer idea of what makes the game appealing to begin with, and just all around get their #### together.
I recognise that there are plenty of people out there who love the game and want it to survive. I dont really care so much anymore, but i dont want to take that away from people. Frankie is definitely doing that.
Please dont respond with posts telling me that Vs is all freakin rosy. Believe what you want, i know i do, and my opinion is as valid as anyone elses. If you love the game, thats great, but blind devotion isnt helping anyone.
Yes its stupid to give updates at every single step of the process to the public. But if the concern is raised in public its appropriate for a company to make a single announcement saying they are looking into the matter before publishing their findings. Just about every major company and just about every democratic government does this.
However they ussually just make the announcement that they are "looking into" a problem.
They rarely get around to actually solving problems though.
Ultimately, I'd rather get a solution than announcements that a solution is being worked on that are meant to placate people.
They could have a press guy that just lurks the forums and posts "we're looking into it" in every complaint thread in hopes of holding back the 'wave' of complaints ... but ultimately, I'm sure that we'd rather have guys see the problem, start working on it, and say something when they've got something to say.
It also doesn't work because just about every relevant way of removing Frankie from the board KOs her or returns her to hand as a cost, leaving nothing for you to chain a stun effect (like, say, Rose Wilson 3) onto.
Removed From Continuity, and to a lesser extent Mutant Massacre are both fun when dealing with her.
It depends on which version of Shadowpact you're playing... Shazam and Cap Marvel's one or "RUSH" deck(not really rush but winning on turn 4 even 3 sometimes it's quite good)?
I'm sure they are mentioning 'The Solution' kind of Shadowpact...
The kind of shadowpact that drops a big threat on three, and countners Plot Twists, and is built to beat the best deck in the format... and prays to have decent game against anything else.
"Lastly, David Humpherys will soon make an announcement on Metagame.com regarding the status of the banned list. That’s all the information I have right now, but as always, be assured that R&D is listening to player feedback and incorporating it into this process."