I think that's a very accurate write up of him. And I think the most ironic thing is that in my case, I got 1 SR Cain, and 3 R Juggernauts... but NO E's or V's of Juggy. LOL!

Hope you can cope with JUST your SR

Sr's and LE's are exactly the same in FF, so they are all LE's. The LE's are are the same in the boosters, it was a manufacturing error, which may be sorted out by ICONS, which is the last set to do SR/LE's. But YOU are getting AN LE out of boosters!!! Who is going to know the difference anyway, except for no box, but half of the LE's you get in the secondary have no box anyway, but they are the same fig anyway. At least the stats for the FF LE's are better than previous sets!!!!

Actually, Atlantis Rising creates aquatic terrian, Unstoppable prevents you from stopping when entering Hindering terrian, given that you treat Aquatic terrian as you would Hindering they are not the same. Otherwise Changling and Morlocks would be moving through hindering terrian with out a problem, that is of course someone actually played them.

I agree with everything said in that breakdown. I am fortunate enough to have already pulled him in super rare form along with Reed Richards so I'm looking forward to playing with him. I just need to figure out how to pull more feats since I've only pulled about 2 or 3 different fears in about 15-20 FF boosters.

i actualy pulled this guy on saturday and i must say im in love. i mean i dont usualy like big close combat bruiser types but he roxors my soxors.

The Expert and LE are the only ones I will use.
I Like him as a Villian not hero, so the Veteran is out!

Check out the universe rule book, water is not listed as anything that qualifies as hindering terrain.

Water hindering terrain is seperate from non-water hindering terrain. Unstoppable does not specify water hindering terrain, and would therefore only be limited to standard non-water hindering terrain.

Anyone else confused yet?

Actually it won't be sorted out in Icons, because there will be no more SR's after this set.

Also, Legacy has some LE/SR figures that really are worth playing.

Water is considered hindering terrain for movement, so it is hindering terrain "lite". ANd since there is no "lite", it is hindering terrain. Unstoppable will nullify it.

(This has been discussed on the Judges Forum. Unstoppable allows movement through water, even the water provided by Atlantis Rising)

Wow, that seems like a bad call, but hey, I'm in no position to argue, good to know.

Why does that seem like a bad call? Game-wise water terrain is a certain type of hindering terrain meaning that if you can go through hindering terrain you can go through water terrain but just because you can go through water terrain doesn't mean you can go through hindering terrain.

A includes B
If you have A, then you have B
If you have B, you do not necessarily have A

Comic-wise...when has a small pond of water stopped Juggernaut?

XStreme is right. I mean, he's JUGGERNAUT. Water won't stop him. That's like saying Spider-man could stop him with one punch :P.

I was lucky enough to get the SR Cain, and let me tell you, this guy rocks. Not too many points for a no-range bruiser, and what a bruiser! Put a couple feats on this guy and he's, well, unstoppable! Nice review for a NICE figure.

Great review as always Mr. Fly. I have been waiting for this Juggernaut for a long time. I was a little disappointed in the REVs attack value, but the LE definitely makes me happy. Keep up the good work G.