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Peter_Porker -- dang, that's a good lineup. I like your chances. My lineup (still in process) is Queen Bee, Kobra, LE Electro (Running Shot and 8 range, though), Desaad... no one with an AV higher than 8 was my initial goal in building... it still needs work.
(And now that I think about it, Mind Control will let you use strategies that you'd already considered being used against you. Rats.)
LeaLu -- (Outwit before Poison) That's surprising. I would have thought that Outwit, a free action, would have to be taken during your turn. I mean, it's an action. Huh. I guess that's not gamebreaking or anything... it's just a little counterintuitive. Thank you for the information, though.
--wyld
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--Alan Moore, Twilight
E-Puppet master 34 points (last click 0 AV)
V-White Queen 94 points (Imperv, but low AV and damage)
E-Storm 40 points (no range, no flight)
E-Black manta 34 points (not much you can say about him)
R/E Booster Gold 28/38 points (E gets toughness but who cares)
V-Chameleon 58 points (wildcard is the only worry, and thats really not much of a worry with this joke)
V-Jean Grey 50 points (support-only one click, TK-who cares as long as you dont have a good figure)
LE James Howlet 75 points ( This one can be dangerous, But even Puppet Master has a fair chance to hit him. If your lucky enough to be handed an outwitter he is not much more than a target)
I would go with White Queen as a point sink before Hulk, Hulk gets stronger while she gets outwit.
X-Man TA is also not a big issue, someone has to spend time and tie up clix to use it. Also Ive seen that most forget its even there.
Some of these are not a good combo IE Jean Grey/Howlet.
The thing I look for is range and Super Str. B/C/F is a luck thing, but 3 DV with an object can loose the game.
Good luck
Travesty
Mine Fuhrer...I can WALK!
Great Trades with;Disco Beef, The Clixster, Thulk, Jonesrl,HCRhow, Chrisaster, Archaon02, ImBatman, Impulse-ive, Mikehunt_69, Jdm61802, Machineman, Panthercult + those in the trade list
V IC Hulk 147
U Xplosion Elektra 160
V HT Joker 91
398
So, You want to hand the other person the game?
Hulk has 7 clix of 3+ Damage, and Elektra never loose's perplex
Worst of the Worst games are slow grinding games.
I would thank someone that gave me this team, While I hand them Puppet Master and Jervis Tetch
Mine Fuhrer...I can WALK!
Great Trades with;Disco Beef, The Clixster, Thulk, Jonesrl,HCRhow, Chrisaster, Archaon02, ImBatman, Impulse-ive, Mikehunt_69, Jdm61802, Machineman, Panthercult + those in the trade list
V Princess Python 42 points worth of nothing
U Medusa that flurry and 2 range is superior to nothing
U Lex Luthor- awful
U Red Skull- mastermind, poison and awful
R Black Manta- cool sculpt, bland dial
R/E Swat Officer- 0 range incap...
U Leader- expensive mindcontrol and completely hittable by anything
I'd even say Weapon X or Lady Deathstrike, sure BCF but no D equals hittable.
e. Vanisher, 21 - Sure, he's a great candidate for the Passenger feat, but without it? 7att and a very short dial.
r. (ult) Colossus, 74 - This so-called brick starts with an activation click, then never gets above a 6spd and 8att. Stay out of his 3spd Charge () reach until the opponent pushes him off it.
The key to the V Hulk is that his 2nd click is still not very good. He needs to be on his 3rd click to really be scary, and it would take a lot of rounds getting him to that point. He would really just be ignored the whole time.
I would disagree with your choice of V White Queen. Yeah, that 1st click is horrible but she goes to 17 defense and keeps Invulnerablity for 4 clicks, then Toughness after that. You would never be able to KO her. Meanwhile she's killing you because she has a 9 AV and you can't get through her defense.
I understand your logic on the Hulk, But remember. Its a trade game.
You are Giving the other player an unbeatable figure-Hulk has 5 clix of invulnerable at 17 Def. and Regen after that!
That's 147 points that you will Not get vs. 97 points that you have a possibility of getting.
If you are looking for a Point sink(a figure that can be ignored, yet costs alot), Vet White Queen can be ignored, Hulk cant.
And with only 3 figures on your team, Hulk will get in the fight alot quicker than you would think.
As for AV, One good hit on White Queen and she may not be able to be hurt but she wont be able to hit you. Hulk gets 10 AV on the third and never goes any lower.
For what its worth, Ive played a Worst of game three times--I live in a college town and its a great game for new players, and the regulars like it too--She has been on my team each time. No, She doesnt get taken out that often. But she is a great one to ignore and tie up with a high Def figure
I had forgotten about Leader, Python and Vanisher. Leader is great(in this game) for the Points as all he will end up being is an Expensive Perplex.
Sorry for a rant, But I just gotta come to my White Queens Defense.
Mine Fuhrer...I can WALK!
Great Trades with;Disco Beef, The Clixster, Thulk, Jonesrl,HCRhow, Chrisaster, Archaon02, ImBatman, Impulse-ive, Mikehunt_69, Jdm61802, Machineman, Panthercult + those in the trade list
if you can use battlefield conditions, build a team of all grounded characters and play Earthquake, which will devastate them (if they don't have damage reducers) or at least hurt them really badly.
as for suggestions.........
use characters with as little range as possible and super low attacks. Unique Lex Luthor has already been mentioned and is a good candidate but as was said earlier don't put a wildcard or other Supeman Enemy on the team. Someone did this with me (i got Chameleon and parasite and made them pay!).
be careful about giving them characters with stealth. it could come back to haunt you!
may want to stay away from mastermind figures unless you don't include people for them to mastermind to.
something kinda funny/irritating would be to give them a team of medics and play Earthquake. that way even if they wanted to heal most medics are too torn up by this point to even have support left.
other characters to pick from:
penguin
mr. bones
brother blood
rookie kobra fanatic
exp. storm (explosion)
pogs that don't have team abilities and have low attacks like metr. bus driver
thugs/henchmen
rookie weather wizard
rookie spoiler
rookie or exp vulture (ic)----not the new one! he's aggravating with super senses!
rookie rhino (crit mass)--lots of adjusters but attack is low and movement is too. you can probably avoid him for a long time before he becomes and issue and you won't have to hit him too hard to really mess him up.
hope that helps. we did this a while back (i'm the judge) and i gave my opponents figures that i shouldn't have and will not make the same type of mistakes again (hopefully). you just gotta watch cuz some clix really shine in this format that you think ordinarily wouldn't . Hush is a good example. so is queen bee.
Success is going from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm
Winston Churchill
Prometheus of SSOSV Clan
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A pessimist can never be disappointed; only pleasantly surprised.
why not just throw in a theme team of skrulls minus super skrull, pretty much impossible for them to pull off a win, i also agree with Esper3k, KC Bats is definately another contender, to be honest between him an the skrulls, i'd put my money on the skrulls
I'd just say, be careful of giving out damage reducers. I have made entire 300 point teams that only hope to get more than 1 damage was a critical hit. Also, any defense over 15 will most likely be incredibly difficult to hit with your low Avs.
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Lady shiva
rookie juggernaut, if you are careful to not have any fliers or telekenetics on your team, he can stink up the place with the best of them, and you are likely to have some outwit since the opponent thinks theres "nothing worth outwitting
rookie ultimate spiderman
rookie crit mass spidey
rookie IC hulk
bizarro (unique)
U Elektra (the 160 pt. version)
E Kang
V Abby Chase
I went 2-1. Most of the matches were easy. Kang was the MVP (or would that be LVP?), he was tied up with mad hatters all night, being 170 odd points of useless. The match that I lost I just played wrong. My opponent gave my a Sgt. Rock and some HDC troopers and similar low point figures. I moved the HDC troopers right up to Elektra to try and get her to push off the 16 defense clicks. I should have just sat Rock right next to her and masterminded everything. Abby Chase was already KO'ed so there was no outwit...