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I've said before that the only thing I really don't like about X-Treme X-Men is the poor character managment. Red Lotus showed up, then disapeared, then showed up and disapeared again. Lifeguard is gone (I'm hoping that her and Thunderbird are just not in the new storyline and we will get filled in on where they were). At least with Slip Stream they explained why he left.
No Slip Stream wasn't a mutant when they met him, but Sage has the power to trigger a mutants second mutation (she did to beast) and in human shes can trigger just first mutations. This is what she did to Slip Stream.
"Sure, she'll be the most powerful mutant on the planet, but that's not a dead end for her" - I think they will etiehr scale her powers down alittle, or slowly turned her into a villian. A hero who can do everything is boring. They have hinted that the villians shes absorbed could over run her mind. That could be an interesting story.
Theres only one Return, and it ain't of the King, its of the Jedi.
Actually I think it was the combination of that energy ray that was siphoning Gambit's powers, her contact with Gambit at the time, and the fact that Vargas stabbed them both at the same time with a spear going through both their bodies. Remember that Gambit is powerless now too. So I doubt it was just simple exhaustion. If it was that fighting exhaustion, then Gambit shouldn't be powerless. If it was just the beam then Rogue shouldn't be powerless. She was only exposed to the ray briefly. Her powers must have glitched with the combination of all of that and screwed both of them in the process. And I'm sure the spear through the back (and then through Gambit's chest) didn't help either.
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I have to give Kaitouace points for hitting the nail on the head.
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So here I go adding to Kaitouace's sig again, but he hit the nail on the head. FOOM is very playable.
Kaitouace - If mean how Rogue's power changed it was Sage. Rogue even told Sage to advance her powers into the second mutation. It had nothing to do with Vargas or Gambit. Her losing her powers may have something to do with that, but not her second mutation.
Another new change that I like is how far Nighcrawler can teleport. His max. distance used to be about 1/2 a mile. He's now able to travel 4 miles.
Theres only one Return, and it ain't of the King, its of the Jedi.
I knew how they changed. I just think that it was a rather dumb idea. Basically making her uber-powerful and it was done for the sake of the position she was in. If that is her "secondary mutation" then she basically is the ultimate hero. She has the powers of hundreds of mutants and super beings at her command and she can change at will.
If that wouldn't be the most boring comic in the world, I don't know what would. Which is why I think they took her powers after the story. To find some way to lessen her "mutation" so she can still be all new but not uber-powerful.
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I have to give Kaitouace points for hitting the nail on the head.
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So here I go adding to Kaitouace's sig again, but he hit the nail on the head. FOOM is very playable.
I agree that it makes Rogue way to powerful. She will either get her old powers back, or get the news on back and turn into a villian. A person that powerful would make a great villian.
Theres only one Return, and it ain't of the King, its of the Jedi.
Originally posted by Kaitouace Feh. It's all junk IMO. The whole "Beast is a cat" thing happened even before they mentioned "secondary mutations". They didn't have much of an excuse for it until they started that. Plus the White Queen also had that "diamond form" junk before they came up with that "term" as well. They just wanted to mess with a few characters and came up with that as cover and ran with it.
Well, the issue was addressed pretty clearly during the initial arc, I'm not sure if you are expecting a big expository speech on page 1 or a hand written letter from Morrison to explain it to every reader. It's an ongoing part of the series and is something that is still being developed. Unless you've seen Grant Morrison's initial proposal to Marvel or you were sitting in the room during editorial summits how are you so aware that it was something made up later? Chris Claremont would introduce story elements that weren't cleared up for years at a time. The Xbooks of the 90s did similar things with storylines like the Twelve. Somehow complaining about a few months seems a bit of a stretch compared to the length of time some of these other stories took.
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And Beast "liking men"? HAH! Even the characters in the book didn't buy that line. What was the basis of that?
The basis of it was an instinctual reaction to being spurned by his biggest love of the last few years. She is turning him away as he becomes more mutated and in a moment of distress he said something to make it sound like it didn't matter to him anyway. When people get dumped one of the natural instincts is to put up a defense mechanism and try to downplay the relationship. After the fact he realized that he could use the opportunity to present the world with a notion that not all Mutants fall into any nice neat category and that mutant society contains people of different appearances, gender, beliefs, and orientations, just like real society does. It was a pretty naieve type of thing to do but he was hurt, lashed out, and wanted to take the opportunity to try to turn it into a positive. Maybe, and I'm going out on a limb here and trying to actually read into the story, he wanted to provide a role model for those who are so frequently spurned for being different. Just like he had just been spurned.
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The Beast thing didn't work? Ta-da! What do you know? Out of nowhere, Northstar joins the X-Men. And in less than 2 issues magically has a crush on Iceman. WhatEVER!
This is the same book where a woman has a crush on a man in a coma, and you are worried about someone being attracted to someone else conscious? One seems a bit more unbelievable to me than the other. Movies, television, novels, music lyrics, comics, books and just about any other form of fictional expression has utilized the idea of love/attraction at first site. What's different here other than Northstar being gay?
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Cassandra. Whatever. Lamest. Idea. EVER. She was the poorest excuse for a plot device I've ever seen.
I dunno, I can deal with her long before Apocolypse, Onslaught, Mr. Sinister, Stryfe, or any other of the interchangeable villainous masterminds. It's a bit of a stretch to have her as Xavier's long lost twin, but no more so than Mystique being Nightcrawler's mum, Jean Grey lying at the bottom of the Hudson, Psylocke reincarnated as an Asian assassin, the Summers family being the key to most major storylines, etc. The one thing about Nova that I find it hard to deny is that her plans resulted in a major change in the X-men status quo. For the first time in 40 years the public knows who Charles Xavier is and what his school represents. Now we get stories with the X-Men trying to train the next generation as citizens and how the group interacts with the real world. It's a big step up from good guy mutant teams vs bad guy mutant teams ad infinitum.
Originally posted by Jin also, continuity has never been a strength for comic books. Otherwise all the Xmen, Spider-man and so on would all be in wheelchairs by now.
Amazing Spider-man is definitely my favourite comic at the moment. JMS is doing a wonderful job.
Spider-man has always been my favorite Marvel character.Nowadays the only Spidey title I buy is Amazing Spider-man.I really do miss Todd Mcfarlane's talent though.I don't think anyone has ever drawn Spidey as well as he did.Probably no one ever will.
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"Who would I be if Connor MacLeod had never found me?"- Duncan MacLeod
BTW, originally, Nightcrawler could teleport about two miles east-west-up, or three miles north or south. The upgrade to 4 miles isn't that big a jump.
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Originally posted by gladiator1518 Spider-man has always been my favorite Marvel character.Nowadays the only Spidey title I buy is Amazing Spider-man.I really do miss Todd Mcfarlane's talent though.I don't think anyone has ever drawn Spidey as well as he did.Probably no one ever will.
although toddy mac was pretty good i do think that JR JR is the best spidey guy close second is humberto ramos (whose spidey is being made into a toy come september)
Claremont is known for having single panel moments that are suddenly important three years down the road. In case no one noticed, Vargas had a statue of Psylocke in his house like a day after he killed her. Way too soon. I think the statue is really her, and that he left behind a dummy corpse.