B/C/F attack is the standard. You actually have to declare that you are NOT using it before you roll the dice. If you don't say anything, then the attack is B/C/F. Remember that you turn OFF optional powers, not turn them ON.

From the PAC

BLADES/CLAWS/FANGS. This character can use a close combat action to deliver 1 to 6 clicks of damage. (Optional) Give this character a close combat action. If the attack succeeds, roll 1 six-sided die. This is the number of clicks of damage you infl ict on the target figure instead of this character’s normal damage value.

Its optional, so it should be stated that you are using B/C/F before you make the attack roll, not after...

Optional powers are considered on unless stated otherwise.

I'm not trying to aggrevate the situation but why does it matter if the person declares BCF before or after the attack? I realize that you're not supposed to be able to change things mid-action but I've generally felt that there was no advantage either way in this case so I usually allow my opponents to decide before or after they roll if they want to use BCF. But maybe that's just me.

Originally posted by Canada Maestro

I'm not trying to aggravate the situation but why does it matter if the person declares BCF before or after the attack? I realize that you're not supposed to be able to change things mid-action but I've generally felt that there was no advantage either way in this case so I usually allow my opponents to decide before or after they roll if they want to use BCF. But maybe that's just me.


simple it is called common courtesy

If that's the case then I'd say to simply ask before the dice are rolled if your opponent is using BCF or turning it off. To wait until afterwards and then try to avoid the BCF by claiming that they didn't declare it (although it's already been said the power is in effect unless stated otherwise) seems like rule lawyering to me and I generally try to avoid that just to keep things fun.

But to each their own I guess.

And what if someone is using a RCE fig and they dont say they are using RCE and the attack your heavy hitter, and you know 5 clicks will iether ko the piece or hurt it bad, they roll get the roll they need and you go ok thats only 2 or 3 clicks (depending on who they are using) and then they say no i was using RCE that will be 5 clicks, all powers are optional and unless i missed the part where the rules say all powers are always on, you have to say what power you are using, some figures have more than one power and we know that not all powers can be combined and work together....

Canada Maestro has struck again with logic and common sense.....and a new twist for someone on HC Realms the rules too.

i was referring more to the player who's turn it is if i have spiral in btb wit your colossus i would announce that i was using flurry and bcf to attack before i rolled that is my point

No. The rule optional powers are considered on, unless you turn them off.

Aside from that I don't believe RCE is optional.

where in the rules does it state that the power is always on, all i see is that is is optional....and why would you ask if thats what they are doing, if you are playing for fun then go ahead and ask, but most people playiing in tournements are not going to help thier oppent out by saying "oh you should use B/C/F or RCE and kill this figure of mine so you can win and not me"....

From the rules:

Super powers are in effect as long as they appear in the stat slot. If a super power is described as optional, it is assumed that the character is using that power unless the player controlling that character states that the power is being canceled. The owning player may cancel the effect at any time, in which case it is canceled until the end of the current turn. At the beginning of the next turn, it is assumed to be in effect again.

Thanks Braden. You beat me to the post.

BTW, I am glad I have never played against anyone like sniksder.

If someone said they are targetting my heavy hitter then I''d assume they were using RCE and take the 5 clicks (and then throw my heavy hitter across the room).

Concerning optional powers (from the rulebook):
"Super powers are in effect as long as they appear in the stat slot. If a super power is described as optional, it is assumed that the character is using that power unless the player controlling that character states that the power is being canceled."

In the case of multiple powers, I'd ask for clarification beforehand. If they are targetting a single character with a range combat attack and they have RCE I don't it's a stretch to know what they are doing. If they have energy explosion I'd make sure they announced that (and ask before the dice are rolled to confirm) so that I know if any of my other figures could be affected.

I would play this way in tournaments as well. I guess it's just me but I feel this is just a game which I play for fun. It's not like I'm going to lose my multi-million dollar endorsement deals because I lost in the first round of a tournament. Of course this will have its limits, but when it's not clear what they are doing in a particular action, I'll ask.

Excuse me......all i asked for was were in the rules it stated that, you provided it so why the attack.....and i have had Judges rule against me for not delcaiing i was using b/c/f/ and told me since i didn't declare it i couldn't use it....