Meh, it always helps to double-check.

I double-quoted to show that you noted that your example concerned the opening hand...so, in your explanation, how would the Jar get in the graveyard to get Reincarnated if it were your opening hand, particularly in your example? Read the bold...

Card Destruction, Painful Choice, maybe even 2 Jars in opening hand and 1 was used in Spell Repro or Serial Spell for something. Dragged Down as well, once opponent figures out your scam.

n00b, it does OTK. Explanation:
First, Makyura's effect triggers when its sent to the graveyard. ANY MEANS, it's the same as Manticore of Darkness. This means that I can activate my draw cards, Acid Trap Holes, and Ultimate Offering (the latter two are EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to the OTK).

Second, the deck works on building up the opponent's hand, thus decking them and getting them ready for the BOMB (aka, Card Destruction + Serial Spell). To do this, Cyber Jar's Flip Effect is used continously via the various ways in the deck to reuse it. Example, Monster Reincarnation + Ultimate Offering + AcidTrapHole/Book of Taiyou.

If you think that I won't pull this off, and that it requires perfect hands, your much so mistaken. IF I EVER DRAW PAINFUL CHOICE DURING THE DUEL I WIN. If not, I can easily dump Makyura to get his effect via x3 Dragged Down into the Grave or x3 Monster Reincarnation (it get's there by ANY MEANS). If I ever get Cyber Jar's effect off, it works.

But to solve your issues, here's the thing:
I'm not Serial Reincarnating, I'm using Serial Spell on Card Destruction for the KO. That's why it's just two, because I'll draw one when I'll need it (it's always the last card that I play), and when I do, if they have 15 cards in their hand (they usually push 20 when I drop the bomb), they discard for Serial Spell'd Card Destruction, then do it again with the actual Card Destruction.

I only use Reincarnation to dump the Makys if need be but mostly they are used for retrieving Cyber Jar because ONCE ULTIMATE OFFERING IS ACTIVE I can continously set it. The deck on average does about 6 Cyber flips, a total of about 27-30 cards in the hand, which after the BOMB is a total of a 50-60 card subtraction from their deck. 40 - 50 or 60 = -10 or -20, in other words, a deckout on their turn or they lose becaues they can't draw for CDestruction.

Kaiser's next, this is what he said:
Dude, why agree with him when he is completely wrong and is acting completely n00bish?!?!?

Dragged dumps their monsters in the graveyard for The Shallow Grave (remember, The Shallow Grave cannot be activated if they don't have a monster in their graveyard when I activate it). It can also act as a lifesaver when that 15% of the time this deck WILL NOT WORK (as most OTK's have this percentage of their failure rate).

This deck has no flaws, and deserves a 10/10.

Next is Tanthalas:
A OTK is like this dude. It has ALOT of bad topdecks, because it will NOT need to get them. Also, this deck is a heck of alot more consistant than your other OTK's, so yeah, don't talk n00b unless you ACTUALLY know what your talking about.

Conclusion? The above 3 people are complete n00bs who shouldn't bash a deck they don't understand. The deck is quite easy to grasp, by the way it's set up. You just have to actually look at it and then think to yourself, "what does this deck do to win?"

this is incredible... very amazing job. 10/10 i see no fixes because it is flawless. all i can do is rate it.

Ok .. someone is feeling a little to superior for his own good. For a decent OTK to pull of at least 80% of the time, you would need 4 different sample hands that will kill on the first turn.

Feel free to show me 4 hands that have the possibility of doing that.

PS. Painful Choice is 1 in 40 odds of gettign it. So thats not a solid number to work with.

Also I am not acting n00bish but Im giving a clear analysis of what I see as the deck's potential. If you think your deck is so dang perfect, cart it off to regionals or something. I mean ... this deck is not as fast or as efficient as you want to believe.

And my question about the 4 separate hands still stand. Show me those sample hands before I will even consider responding to your immature reaction at a blow to your ego.

You're obviously not looking for fixes. So why do you ask for fixes if you're not going to listen to what everyone has to say?

Dude, are you retarded? This OTK is different from other OTK's. The only bad hands this deck gets is something that NO DECK can work with (in other words, 2 spell repros, 2 serials, and 2 thunder dragons. This is including draw #1).

Other than that, this deck can't lose. If I even get the flip off turn 1, I win. If I draw Painful Choice, I win. If I get Maky's effect, I win...

It's not that hard to grasp...

PS. WHITEWOLF ... if you want to make a brand new account to blow your own trumpet, at least make it believable by posting on a few other threads before posting right on yours. And just for the record, I doubt anyone was fooled. What a loser!

hey... i'm not whitewolf... don't mistake me for him. i just signed up i had no posts because i JUST SIGNED UP. i went to a different forum site before. you're pretty dumb.

And back to the 4 sample hands from your perfect deck that will win it immediately? Can we see some of that?

....your intelligence must be the same of an ant...

Fooslikeasin is a friend of mine from another site retard...

I know him IRL, he's a good friend of mine. Now to Iceman, it's quite simple. I want a rate. I'm also criticizing the n00bs who post to this deck because they think they are "the bomb" and they're actually not. If you actually looked at this deck for a minute or 2, you'd get it...

WAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA! Dang. This is easier than catching cheaters at Regionals. So if you are both different people, I want BOTH of you to meet me in the Chatroom. If you can't then why? And er ... how come both of you are never online at the same time? Wow. You must be a moron to think you can get away with this lame excuse.

Interesting. Considering that ants are pretty damn smart considering their brain size. Check National Geographic if you do't believe me.

hey moron i'm online right now... same aol account as this account, whitewolf is on as well. get over yourself, you are wrong! you name the chatroom i'll go there right now. so will he! get out of this topic you are too stupid to post here!

i suggest shallow graves to be put in. the deck looks very good but its hard to tell