Despite the likelihood that most MW players aren't the type to actually be interested in Baseball Clix, you probably DON'T want to encourage people to boycott the game.

After Creepy Freaks, Crimson Skies, and Shadowrun, Wizkids really needs Baseball clix to do well.

If it does not, it means reduced MW support.

REPEAT:

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If Sports clix fails, MW suffers! Not gains!
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It could even mean the end of wizkids, though not likely, more likely it means reduced support for MW and other lines.

Honestly I really do not appreciate the attitude some people are having towards the set cycling, Wizkids doesn't really have a choice in the matter, money is money and no one can blame a company for wanting to make a profit. They aren't being greedy, they are trying to survive.

Wizkids really needs Sports clix to sell, plus the more profit they get, the better MW gets. That is what we want right?

Honestly, it's going to be a while before WK starts retiring sets, and it's a good idea IMO. Cause the older sets will be out of production and players can get them any more. For newer players that's a big hurt, especially when it comes to what the prices for those figs would be in a year or two.

I'm fairly sure that Wizkids never expected you to become a Sportclix player... I don't think they expected any of us that play any of their other games to be interested at all.

I had no plans to buy it anyway.
So, i guess I'm in by default

Just remember, WK is losing money already. Also, keep in mind that Topps won't hold onto a losing subsidiary for too long. WK, on it's own, would be doomed and dead fairly quickly. Topps has the R&D and marketing $$$ that WK needs to survive.

Don't bite off your nose to spite your face.

Sportsclix may fall by itself. In a way it is an amazing game, baseball strategy way beyond STRATOMATIC and APBA baseball, the two dominant statistical baseball games on the market at present. Sportsclix lets you strategize about every pitch and chart every hit; not just each overall at bat.

The problem is that it slows down game play. APBA games can be played in 20 minutes! Sportsclix games are going to go at least an hour if players are really thinking.

So, it is much more like real baseball IMO, but it is radically different from the other games in terms of time to play and intensity of decision making. Whether people have enough time to play a full season of games using this system is an open question. Whether baseball has any international appeal is another.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Look at the good stuff:
Mechwarrior
Heroclix

Look at the stuff that has great potential but isn't doing great:
Crimson Skies
Shadowrun
Mage Knight 2.0
MK Dungeons

Things that flopped bad:
Creepy Freaks

That's not to say anything in the second category is totally dead ... but I suspect the folks running WK were disappointed in their performance. From the point of view of Topps they see 2 strong performers, 4 so-so ones, and 1 that was released that flopped. Topps is probably gunning hard for SC and if they see it flop then that may shatter their idea of making a huge line of different sports clix games and if sales/profits don't improve for WK overall then Topps may at that point cut them loose. Would WK survive as its own entity once again? If the market were the same as it was 1-2 years ago sure (though further cuts would probably have to be done to the tournament support structure in order to cut costs). But now D&D has got their own version out which is picking up some steam ... so if WK were on their own now ... especially if this set-retirement business goes in to effect and thus alienates a fair amount of the existing player-base ... I don't think it would be a long bright future for WK at that point.

So ... bottom line is we NEED the SC game to do well. The better it does, the more resources Topps will give WK which in turn hopefully means they will be able to pour more in to MW along with developing their other product lines.

Let's put wizkids out of business! If they don't make mechwarrior exactly the way I, one of thousands of people who buy this product, want it to be made, we should put them out of business so no one can make any game for us at all! And who is topps owned by? Probably either nike, mcdonalds or marlboro! SO let's boycott everything because those few corporations own everything! The only solution to...whatever the problem is...is to kill the entire international economy! That, or we could just...not. Either way is cool with me.

Okay, here is a strategy. Wait around in a store that sells Sportsclix. Whenver anyone tries to buy one, start screaming like a banshee until the tentative customer leaves. Note that this might get yourself banned from the store, but at least you struck a blow against The Man.

Sportclix be even worse MW at retiring Fig because once guy retires you cannot use after afew months. Also up here we're hoping for a Babe Ruth LEor other retired or died players.

They buried the approved play change page with over 400 comments, so they can try to buy us buy with a perview of a FP booster. I can't even find that page with over 400 comments about there greedy retirement plan. I guess that show us what WK really thinks of us.

WK: Show them a FP preview, that should shut them up and make them forget about us retiring sets. Show them enough shiny object and they would even forget there own names.

Shame on you WK

No way in h e l l is sportsclix going to pull WizTopps financial arse out of the fire.
The target audience is not kids-kids are at home playing PS2, gamecube and Xbox.
The target audience are gamers, and we just got the shaft from WizTopps regarding the games they already have been successful with.

It takes alot to get a kid's attention. WizTopps could have done it by staying on course with their mail in LE program, and by getting prize support on time and correct, and by not cutting the number of official games per month down to hardly nothing now. They have absolutely no clue. They are shooting into the wind and hoping that something comes down. What a way to use disposable income.
I assume that's what WizTopps is running on? Disposable income?
It must be to be able to lose tons of money and still pump out stuff that noby will ever want to be seriously involved with like Sportsclix.

If some stuffed shirt at Topps decided to buy WizKids just for the clix aspect and to make a Sports related game out of it-I hope they at least shared with everyone whatever it was they were smoking.

Even if they did get kids onboard for sportclixs, as soon as they find out their figs won't be usable much in 2 years-they'll ge gone too.

I for one don't like baseball much. I for one would rather actually play a real life game than a table top game. I for one would rather play Xbox and invest my money into those games-because I already know that my investment into Sportsclix would now be worthless in 2 years time.


WAY TO GO WIZTOPPS!!!

Boycott? Try ignore. Don't bother paying any attention to sportsclix. It will fail easily enough on its own.

I can not even begin to think how sportsclix could possibly even do remotely well. I only feel this was pushed by Topps. Or maybe even WKs, perhaps they used this as a bartering tool to get picked up by Topps. Other than collectors, I shudder to see this played out. Real baseball can be boring enough. A clix version? *shudders*

I'm terribly bummed they are letting go of Crimson Skies. That is a fun game, and it's a pity it didn't get more play. I partially blame their marketing department.. but ugh. I can't see how this could do better than CS. Maybe it will take off in Japan. That is the only other place I could see this taking off.

fleabitfox

why boycott a product when you're really not interested in anyway?

if sportsclix sells, its good for WK, given the backlash from creepyfreaks.

what's good for WK, good for us.