Yeah, the Gunslinger was my favorite because he has better range, venom, and dodge. Not bad for an LE.

I have double-checked all the stats posted to address some concerns about accuracy raised here and in other threads. Exept for typos on the point cost of 4 figures, all stats are as they are on the figures I have so unless WK issues errata, that's it folks. The typos are:

#102 Searle of Congers. Cost is 90 at lvl 5, not 92

#106 Sir Mishler. Cost is 77 at lvl 5, not 93

#108 Gronther. Cost is 55, not 56

#110 Crupo the Lucky. Cost is 24, not 25

are you sure razi's attack is 7.....:(

Someone just became alot more usable. Still won't see play(from me atleast) in anything less than 300(even iffy then) though

I am a fan of Cerberus (the Impaling Golem), Midden (The Troll Zombie), and Foster Gray (The Fanged Gunslinger). They are all expensive, but they are all nice upgrades on the their tough versions.

OOOOh, I want Bek.

He looks just like my frog........

yea i like midden, cerebus, and annub's shield. whats up with razi's 7 attack!

Sweet, crossfactional Heros! Someone HAS been listen to me!

Razi's attack is indeed 7. This is not a mistake.

And I think that for 77 points, Sir Mishler is a ppppretty good figure. FM at 12" AND 18 defence with Defend AND Command AND a good attack AND 4 damage to boot. He moves the army, raises their defence and has a chance of getting one more action in there and once the army is in place, he can certainly hold his own. Maybe not in a 200 pt. game but I would certainly play him in a 300 + pt. game.

My 2 cents.

now sir mishler's figure... does makes him a bit more useful, im perty skeptical with the 90+ points he's with before! thanks dug! :D

Razi does have a 12 inch range, giving him the second largest shockwave radius, making him a nice novelty fig. But the 7 attack and FOUR inch move make him either a fun only or turtle army only figure. He does have a cool name at least.

I wonder if amotep norda's range is really 6? I noticed all the other troll gunners have their range listed at 10, which is a typo. Even though he gained two arrows, his damage sucks compared to the red troll gunners. The extra clicks of toughness don't help; I'd rather have points spent on better offense as opposed to having a bad fig hang around longer.

Rigger turga, more bad ability mixing. It loses battle armor for MI on it's first click, meaning you can't levitate it to safety when it gets based by mean figs. It exchanges this for an extra click of healing on with a pathetic attack of 6?

Foster Gray was an attempt to salvage some playability out of the unusable red and blue fanged gunslingers. The 10 inch range and 3 damage means it can actually threaten some figs. The opening click of dodge is kinda nice except for the that it's defense goes down to 15. I assume the point formula for dodge depends on the defense value.

Chofni is interesting to me. He exchanges magic healing for healing which makes more sense with defend anyway. This brings his cost down to 43, which is 5 points cheaper than the yellow.

Enderek os Fena is another interesting change to me. He brings enhancement to the EL for only 29 points. I don't care how many abilities he had to lose to bring his cost down to this level, the standard elven demi magi are unplayable.

Pickett is a lot more interesting than your standard sentry golem. Unfortunately, he's still a sentry golem which means he's still unplayable.

I wish they had dropped the quickness on rihban crag. Playing him in formations with heroes in the most compelling reason I see to use him, which means the quickness will be useless to me.

Searle of Congers has to be the worst fig you can get in the game for 92 points. This will be awarded as a prize?

Lord Andreus is very nice. For 30 points, you get a good starting click and the ability to make formations with heroes such as scholar-magus bessa.

Anunub's Shield - An 84 point shield?? I don't anunub would have ever associated with such an overpriced fig. The invuln is very nice, but the 15 defense on it is very bad. It's like they tried to counteract the +2 defense vs. ranged that Invuln gives you.

I wonder if amotep norda's range is really 6?

Duguayduguay, who originally submitted the stats, verified that it was not a typo.

Rigger turga, more bad ability mixing. It loses battle armor for MI on it's first click, meaning you can't levitate it to safety when it gets based by mean figs. It exchanges this for an extra click of healing on with a pathetic attack of 6?

I think you're looking at that MI completely the wrong way. Think of it as a healer that can go behind ranged attackers without fear of MB or taking extra damage from enhanced F/L.

Foster Gray was an attempt to salvage some playability out of the unusable red and blue fanged gunslingers.

And as I've said before, IMO it failed.

He brings enhancement to the EL for only 29 points. I don't care how many abilities he had to lose to bring his cost down to this level, the standard elven demi magi are unplayable.

In what manner is the *Elven DM, which costs only TWO POINTS more, unplayable? And I do care about the abilities he had to lose... especially the Defend. With Enderek, your opponent can simply tear up whatever he's standing in front of unhindered, then take care of him at their leisure. At least with a *Elven DM the Defend makes it a little more difficult.

I wish they had dropped the quickness on rihban crag. Playing him in formations with heroes in the most compelling reason I see to use him, which means the quickness will be useless to me.

Most compelling reason I see to use him is as a Hero in Dungeons... I haven't seen all that many heroes that are "compelling" in Rebellion anyway.

Balduvian:

If you like healers with MI, you can do much better than Rigger - use a red faith healer. She beats him in almost every category and is about 11 points cheaper. Most importantly, she moves 8 instead of 6. Magic levitation is one of the major reasons to play the Guild. Giving them a figure with MI just limits its usefulness to the guild. With all the range, firepower and leviation AG has, you don't need healers with defensive abilities (Except maybe toughness).

I agree they may have failed in making an effective gunslinger, but look at all the improvements they made to it. They took out one of the useless 4 arrows, extended its range by 4 inches, giving you a chance to potentially use the three arrows one day, gave it 2 clicks of 3 damage where is used to have 2. Some of the add ons were questionable, the low defense dodge and the venom, but at least it has some justification for its cost now, unlike the red.

Sure the yellow elven demi magus is only 2 points more. Have you ever used it? I'm guessing no, since it's stats and abilities are pathetic.

"especially the Defend. With Enderek, your opponent can simply tear up whatever he's standing in front of unhindered, "

Are you implying that the yellows defend of 15 will "protect" any figs? A 15 defend is the most non-existent ability you can pay for in this game. You have to pay 37 points to get a 16 defend with a blue Elven demi magus and that still only gives you a 7 attack. I'd rather have a mending priestess (at least she can heal the trolls when they get hit), or Enderek so you can experiment with using ME with EL without paying 8-10 points more for a defend value that probably won't make a difference. As I said, he's interesting to me, where the standard elven demi magi are just overpriced.

Interesting figures, dissapointed...yes. But still there pretty cool, AS is cool with inv, and the rest are so-so.

Thank you sooooo much!!!!!!! I was very excited about Sir Mishler, then I saw it was 93 points!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

I am sooo very relieved that it is only 77 points. This makes the figure much much better. I really think this figure will very playable now in larger games, and extremely good in Conquest games.