Interestingly, this spell does allow for suicide tactics as the figure does not have to be eliminated by the enemy.

I think the faq needs to be updated to define eliminated as a figure that is killed by your oppenent.

Which really isn't a problem. Losing a figure to cause 1 pushing damage to all figures within 3"? I'll take that (unless they are all Tormented Souls ;) ).

What were the issues with suicide tactics? Karrudan's Bow did 4 damage in a 12" radius. Much, much higher damage potential. Spirit Armor? One figure, of any power level, dies if you die. Again, more powerful by a significant margin.

Sure, a swarm army could potentially do a lot of damage with this out. However, you have to get it out first. Also, the Sorcerer who cast it is a mostly unmoving target. Finally, staying 3" away from fragile or almost dead figures probably isn't too much of a problem.

If you think about it Giant's Wrath does pretty much the same thing, but every time you make a succesful attack, and I'm not sure if it does pushing damage. I really don't see much greatness in this because I have played Giant's Wrath a few times, and it isn't that great except for the nice bonuses. It rarely hits anything except the figure you are already attacking. A 3" radius is quite tiny unless you are being swarmed and even then it is ONLY 1 damage. I personally will not find myself using this spell much at all.

Gonna have to watch out for this one!

yes but I said it might be broken - gun man, not Whoo this is like sooooo broken! But I think it will be - Kenntak was thinking like me - play a few of these and throw your figs at the opponents - also I dont play pure faction - I have a lot of decent swarm armies that might even win without help - this is just kbow icing on the cake. Remember I can play other spells too!

I know tarnace, just hoping that some of the "broken" comments stay down some...without knowing what else is there (considering there's 90 spells ;)) there's no point saying what is broken or not till we get everything about sorcery out in the open :)

Has anyone thought of the heatwave domain in tandem with this spell?... thats not exactly killing yourself now is it ? That sounds like a loophole to me.;) ...played right this spell could have some nasty potential thats for sure...


Gunny

Believe men gunmix we are on the same page - look at my first post under the spell disbelieve and you will see that we're cool :cool:

But gunmix, we dont have to worry about it not "legally" killing ourselves until this is put in the FAQ, why worry about using Heatwave when you can still DT DT DT and kill all those useless MS while there are multiple copies in play, then summon them right back after doing like 4 pushing to all figs within 3".

This spell wouldbe a reason to add Sydin and a spell book into my little people army (55 units in a 500 point game), think of the fun.

-gaunt.

With the presence of glyphs magical confusion got much more useful...... Oh you have sydin cast 4 Death Throes, thats nice until I MC him just off the glyphs.

All hail Herals Calianthia!

Shoot, with her able to ruin opponent's glyphs without haveing to resort to Counterspells, soar on a mount, and cast spells, she doesn't seem half bad at all now.

We have to see how important glyphs are before we can say the herald will be put into play

Herald is already worth playing... with or without glyphs. :D

Thats probably the second funniest thing I have seen all day.