I rarely have Perplex or Outwit, but when I do, I generally don't use it on the defense powers unless I REALLY want to make something stick or can't damage any other way. I try to take away my opponent's ability to do anything to me.

It's also more useful if you have it on a figure with Charge or Running Shot who can't see the target at the start of the action. A figure who Charges around a wall can Exploit Weakness a target that they wouldn't have been able to Outwit for lack of line-of-sight.

yeah lets see BM/GA with base 12 attack, with the 4 Gotham Detectives that gives me +3 Attack and +3 damage with duo attack, so that is first attack is 6 damage with a 15 attack against you highest def possible of 22 that is the average roll of 7 needed to hit.Then my second attack hits for another 6 with a MUCH easier chance since you lost you perplex to defense.

So yeah say all you want perplex and outwit has their use but o some teams its not needed, EW/PB is good to have so that if you do have outwit you don't have to waste the outwit on Defense so you can counter their offensive ability's.

I do like the idea someone else suggested somewhere else on this forum.

If you outwit Impervious, the character can use Invulnerability. If you outwit Invulnerability, the character can use Toughness.

Defense abilities are going to be worth jack in the modern format without feats to protect them (unless you have Power Cosmic or Q).

Fail........

or Stealth
or Barrier
or positioning
or......

...preemptive attack
or counter-Outwit
or meat shields
or......

....long dial
or regen
or steal energy
or hulk (or hulk esq dial)
or....

or cupcakes

Rip Hunter...

Main thing you need to remember, they are trying to build as close to comic accurate figures as they can. Since not every character is the same you have different combinations and such. Outwit may represent someone who is highly logical and intelligent. They would be able to think around an opponents strengths. Whereas Exploit Weakness represents someone adapt at fighting or weapons and thru superior training get to their opponents weaknesses. One may not be able to do it the same way as the other but they both have their chances. That is why they exist. They add much more versitility to the game.

or meat sandwiches
or potato chips
or....


Damn...lost track there. And now I'm hungry.

or SP's that protect against outwit
or Guardians of the Galaxy ATA
or.....

Totally off topic, and maybe I'm just really tired right now, but Termin8r and Perpexinator should be forbidden from posting together in the same thread. Too many 'aters.

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Seriously, outwit ruins defensive abilities. Turns Thor into a high-defense thug. It's hard to be Superman when your impervious gets outwitted from 10 squares away.