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I really liked having Peter work as a teacher, for a lot of the reasons you mentioned above. I thought that career move had a lot of potential to generate some really good stories.
Exactly. It's character growth!
Personally, that's what I love to see. I loved Spidey as a full-time Avenger living in Stark Tower. I loved Peter working as a high school teacher. It was a lot of fun.
(Pity that the Jarvis Aunt May was flirting with turned out to be a skrull. Bah!)
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Little known fact - the "M" in M. Bison actually stands for "malakim2099."
I just don't see how you can like Joe Q overall. Even if some things he did were good (and I agree some were), the overall damage he has done seems worse than the good.
Joe Q destroyed any love I had for Marvel. I stopped reading the books and stick to DC. With only so much money to waste, you gotta make a choice, Joe Q made it easy.
My problem with OMD/BND/OMIT is that Joey Q (in another of his infinite wisdom moments) undid years and years of stories, years and years of character growth and development, years and years of continuity, and for what?
You didn't NEED to magically erase their marriage from history to tell the stories you're telling right now. Not only that, but in order to pull off the whole thing you made both MJ and Peter act completely out of character. You've turned MJ into yet another weak supporting female rather than Peter's strong, supportive "anchor" to sanity and a normal life.
What good did that do the franchise? What good did that do the character? I know Quesada had a real problem, for some reason, with a married Spider-Man, and had an even bigger problem with the idea of a divorced Spider-Man. But here's the thing: major retcons and continuity changes/reverses/erases should be done for the good of the character or to fix a past writer's errors. If you literally cannot go any further with a character without changing something from their past, then go for it. The retconning of Jean Grey's death worked. Avengers Forever made sense out of a horrible, horrific mess of conflicting continuity and poor writing. I can even understand (if not actually appreciate or agree with) the quick tweaking of the Xorn/Magneto/Sublime story.
But why, exactly, did Spider-Man have to trade his marriage, and thus his personal growth from gangly, awkward teen to responsible, mature adult, for the life of a woman old enough to die of natural causes at any time? Even Aunt May herself (if she were being written correctly) wouldn't stand for that one, so why did Peter and MJ? It's sloppy writing done heavy-handedly just because of an editorial mandate. And that's exactly what long-running comics with character growth and evolution do NOT need.
And that's why I won't read another issue of a Spider-Man solo book until this entire mess of a story is undone.
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"I wasn't making a personal attack! I was just applying insults and idiotic generalizations to a group of people you might be a part of! You shouldn't respond to my generalizing you indirectly!"
And that's why I won't read another issue of a Spider-Man solo book until this entire mess of a story is undone.
I keep seeing people say this. Unfortunately I don't think it will be undone. At least not any time soon, and retconing a retcon seems like an even worse idea... Well, maybe not.
Originally posted by JBShip628: Cosmic Spider-Man's LoF is NEVER blocked. See that Batman 4 tables down. Yeah, Cosmic Spidey can shoot at him.
My problem with OMD/BND/OMIT is that Joey Q (in another of his infinite wisdom moments) undid years and years of stories, years and years of character growth and development, years and years of continuity, and for what?
You didn't NEED to magically erase their marriage from history to tell the stories you're telling right now. Not only that, but in order to pull off the whole thing you made both MJ and Peter act completely out of character. You've turned MJ into yet another weak supporting female rather than Peter's strong, supportive "anchor" to sanity and a normal life.
What good did that do the franchise? What good did that do the character? I know Quesada had a real problem, for some reason, with a married Spider-Man, and had an even bigger problem with the idea of a divorced Spider-Man. But here's the thing: major retcons and continuity changes/reverses/erases should be done for the good of the character or to fix a past writer's errors. If you literally cannot go any further with a character without changing something from their past, then go for it. The retconning of Jean Grey's death worked. Avengers Forever made sense out of a horrible, horrific mess of conflicting continuity and poor writing. I can even understand (if not actually appreciate or agree with) the quick tweaking of the Xorn/Magneto/Sublime story.
But why, exactly, did Spider-Man have to trade his marriage, and thus his personal growth from gangly, awkward teen to responsible, mature adult, for the life of a woman old enough to die of natural causes at any time? Even Aunt May herself (if she were being written correctly) wouldn't stand for that one, so why did Peter and MJ? It's sloppy writing done heavy-handedly just because of an editorial mandate. And that's exactly what long-running comics with character growth and evolution do NOT need.
And that's why I won't read another issue of a Spider-Man solo book until this entire mess of a story is undone.
Everything I was going to say was pointed out here. Thank you.