I didn't mean to be insulting. Is it an advantage to have a spoiler list ahead of time? Of course. Is it a big one? Not really. 6 weeks is plenty of time to build a deck. Even if you had the spoiler you'd have a hard time building a deck right now. To know what deck is going to be good in Atlanta you have to know what decks everyone else thinks will be good. Why was our PC Indy GLEE deck so good? Cause we knew what everyone else was playing and built a deck to beat it. We had an auto-win against GLEE decks w/ few pump cards, which was a huge majority of the field.

Anyway... wanna know what FTN has been doing since PC LA? Practicing draft. We will be hurriedly testing Marvel Modern just like you will. Best of luck to you.

Oh and for the record I'm a terrible deck builder.

Having the spoiler a full month before anyone else will give people an unfair advantage. That happened in DBZ/GT CCG several times and this hurt the game alot IMO. Tim Batow knows this and is probably why he stated it about people knowing in the first place. He was one of the best players in that game. I don't know if he had access to spoilers over there but I know he would agree that it went on. UDE would do well to listen to him because he was one of the best and most respected players in that game. if he says it would give someone an advantage then it would. Period.

No doubt 6 weeks is a lot of time to build a deck but wouldn't 12 weeks be better? Wouldn't 12 weeks give you the chance to test with almost every deck out there and change the cards and ratio to a more suited one?

Those that have the list definitely have the head-start. No doubt about it, there's no argument. Unless you are saying that all those who have the list are dumb and are nothing compared to you who can build the deck within 1/2 the time and have the experience of playing it within 1/2 the time.

If this is true, UDE really suck man. (At least those who leaked the info out really really sucked)

VS has bad playtesting? I think some people here need to step outside the box for a little bit and sample some current top CCG's and see the problems they are currently having. You'll come running back to VS in a hurry.

actually, one of the things that makes this format so different from the past 2 modern formats is that we already have a decent idea of what a good chunk of the field will be playing. Due to the success of FoE, SQS, and AV with cards mostly from that set, there's already a baseline set out. The amount of people playing those decks will depend on how they do pre-PCATL, but those decks will be a presence at the PC. In addition, since those decks are already built, people know that any decks built from the X-Men set have to be able to contend with them to win.

Not all people have as much time to put into this game or as much helpful feedback as the players on pro teams do. This makes the 6 weeks more difficult to work with. It may not be the biggest thing in the world, but it irks me to see the rich get richer in this way.

Like I said, I've always respected you Dalton, and you probably didn't mean to be insulting. However, to me, your post came of as very elitist and arrogant, which rubs me the wrong way.

The general lack of any other pros in this thread seem to strengthen the validity of this rumor.

Having a spoiler list before the set comes out, especially a month or more in advance is a huge advantage (obv). I don't care what anyone else says about metagaming or drafting or the color of my socks. The fact is, that you have to get past day one in order to play in day two, and day one just happens to be Marvel Modern.

The problem is, is that by now UDE is certainly aware of the problem, but barring the complete rehauling of the set - which is too costly - or releasing the spoiler early - which will undoubtedly cut into sales - there is no real fix. Best to accept this is the way it is.

6 weeks is good, but 12 is much better. Im stil toying w/ a Spider Friends deck in which all the cards that are in it have been out for a while now...and no doubt about a week ago it was no were near as good as it is now and the week before that and the more time I had to use it the more combos I could play the more matchups I had, the more overall experience with the deck, intiative choices optimal drops...etc.

im gonna have to agree with dalton on this issue. also i think that even if other teams have it early that should encourage you to draft 2x as hard as they are gonna playtest the new set. anyway, daltons right, and even if his team had the spoiler before us or after us it wouldnt matter, either way they would make sure they were ready by at least drafting. you WILL see members of his team top 8 as usual. i wonder y? could it be day 2 is the toughest part and they come well prepared with their drafting skills. i know im gonna do some hardcore drafting to get ready. gl to everybody who goes. and dontlet a petty issue like this make u turn on ude. its gotta be one of the best gaming companies out there.

Hired people have to be payed. That's a lot of money. UDE is not made of money, so they get people who love the game, and are good at it, to do it for free or close to it. I see at best a short-term problem that diminishes markedly over time. By 6 weeks after the prerelease, anyone who's seriously devoted to playtesting will have gotten plenty enough practice by means of proxies and OTCGN.

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kinda sucks on limited cause if this all true they'll know which things to play, what to pass, what easy combos might be available with this and that, loads of possibilities, and a month for prep isn't that good unless you have a lot of free tiem to spend researching combos and dis/advantages, it doesn't actually bother me directly as I don't have any plans for Atlanta, but I feel it sucks for those persons who may have now lost their only chance to take the win home

I doubt OCTGN would have the list up yet. Anyway, I agree with Deranged Bear on the part on advantage having the list beforehand.

Some players may already decide what to play before even thinking of building a new deck to play with, Personally, I would bring a deck that I am very much familiar with it. Like Avengers. Removing No Man for Flying Kick and so on. If X-Men had something that can offer to my Avengers, I will just use that few cards and improve on my deck and play more to better familiarise.

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I'm not really directing this at you, Craxton, but following your argument, one can't help but come to the conclusion that UDE, to save money, is shafting its player base. How is that supposed to make us feel? But no, I take that back, not all of us are being shafted. Those who are already successful are spared, for they are being handpicked by UDE as favorites to get a leg up on the competition. Again, how is that supposed to make us feel? The climb to the top is already steep enough without adding more obstacles. And by 6 weeks after the pre-release, those supposed pros will have had 12 weeks to prepare. That's 3 months!

Didn't UDE change some of their set selection for drafting at the PC because other countries weren't getting the new sets as fast, and therefore wouldn't have enough time to prepare? I at least know this has been an issue. This situation is strikingly similar, and sadly perhaps worse. In this case, certain teams, rather then certain countries, are being given an unfair advantage. Yet this time the problem is not a result of shipping. It is a result of favoritism.

well my self i give a thumbs up to the ppl who have a early spoiler list. if someone posted a link to it right now i know just about everyone who saw it would be on it like stink. but if this info is true i wanna know who has it so i can get hehehe