Squirrel Girl

if you think talking to fishes is limited...
think twice

He talks to the fishes and the fishes say to him...LOSER!

This is not "who is the best superhero ever made"... leave our girl and her nuts out of this. We have been lobbying for a Squirrelgirl card for two years now. Someday our dreams will come true, buckteeth and all.

Doug Ramsay<>Cypher is great! Without him we do not get the Humanimals or Birdbrain or even Douglok. In the AoA storyline, he makes Avalon a possibility. Heh, I almost made it, yeah, he's lame. But not nearly as bad as Skin. HIS POWER WAS EXTRA SKIN. Not just skin, gray skin. When he was near Leech all he did was sag. Bub. :laugh:

Your all missing the whole point of this thread. This isn't the "which superhero do you hate most" thread, this is the "worst superhero thread"

Superman and Captain America are in no way the worst super heroes. they are the Best. they embody the good in all people, and the ideals and morals of the general public and to further extent the foundations of the country you people live in. Show some respect where its due.

You can hate on any number of GOOD super heroes simply because their popular or because u have nothing better to do, but more than likely if were to ask any random stranger in america to name 5 super heroes, the same 2-3 always come out first.

Going back on topic, I think the wonder twins from the Super Friends show sucked tho.

Oooh...I thought the Wonder Twins sucked. I mean..sure turning in to a tiger is cool...but why the hell would you wanna be a puddle of water? I suppose the mud would slow people down...but comon, they'd walk all over you!

Um...other than that...I don't really think Aquaman is much good. Oh, and the Question. Don't get me wrong, I think he's cool. But he just kinda...ask things. I guess he's smart. I've never even seen him fight, more of a plot mover. Still think he's cool though.

Interesting post; I should have been more explicit.

I don't adhere to the Superman was first, therefore best theory. Personally, I find Superman to be an interesting character because Siegal and Schuster were reading and using Nietzsche's philosophy of the "superman"; in summation, as long as guided by rational thought man can define his own world not by tradition (conformity), but by values that he arrives at on his own. You see? Intelligent punks have been around forever, even in Prussia.

Ironically, Nietzsche and the idea of a "superman" would later be distorted by Adolf Hitler for his own agenda.

In summation, I appreciate Superman because there is a rich history that birthed the character. What does art mean to you? What is the point of digesting only the surface of things; there is more to Superman than many other characters running-around the funny papers: "Hey, I have an idea! Let's create a guy who can wield the power of the Earth! He can devastate enemies by creating rock-creatures with his mind! Not only that, he would be invulnerable, skin as hard as rock! Imagine getting pummeled by rocks! And he can create earthquakes and landslides just by stomping his foot or waving his arm! Let's call him Gravelfist!"

The "too powerful" problem with Superman is generally more of a problem with company politics/policy than with the character himself. The core elements of the character (last survivor of a doomed world, ultimate immigrant story, etc) are rock solid, and he tends to make for very good Elseworlds tales. But as a corporate icon he unfortunately doesn't cater well to an ongoing serial, and his monthlies suffer for it.

Aquaman doesn't suck. Yes, his powers seem limited compared to JLAers, but as a solo character he can work well because of his versatility. He's stronger than normal humans and is a skilled fighter, so he can fight mainland villains fairly well (unless the writer is using the stupid "one hour out of water" weakness). He just also has an additional environment environment that only he can use.

Namor is freaking awesome. The ultimate anti-hero, and one of Marvel's heavy hitters (he's defeated the FF, Hulk, and Iron Man, among others). Unfortunately Marvel forgot how to use him, and I think he tends to get some negative association with Aquaman, despite the fact that they are pretty different and Namor came first.

Wolverine is fine when not overexposed. Check out the Dark Phoenix Saga, first Wolverine solo mini, and Astonishing X-men for good examples.

Captain America is Marvel's second or third best solo character, and probably the first, second or third best team character (Reed Richards and Thing are the others). He has a similar versatility to Batman, though on an international scale.

Now, worst superhero? Leaving out obscurities, I'd be tempted to go with Gambit off the top of my head. Some cool stuff has been done with him, though. There have been some pretty bad members of the JLA and X-men.

There are a lot of characters that were bad enough to disappear into obscurity.

I'll just add my vote to NFL Superpro. Just a bad concept altogether.

SPIDERMAN BLOWS!

All Red Sun proves is that Supes even has corney dialogue in Russian, and Batman is still bad ass as a commie. ;)

Like I said, it's only my opinion. I personally think that the DCU would be better off finding ways to cope without a Superman than hero-worshipping him. Story wise, anyway.

Squirrel Girl doesn't count as she doesn't really exist.
She implausibly beats a Doombot who had managed to embarrass Iron Man. Gasp of Horror!

p.s. Superman sucks the big one.

Saying Superman sucks is like saying your great-grandfather isn't cool. Yeah, he's not cool. Even he knows he's not cool. Most of us comic die-hards know he's not cool. His origin is silly.. his costume is lame and his whole Clark Kent identity is absurd. But he is still relevant.

He is the great grand-pappy of all super-heroes. He's been published practically continuously since 1938. He's an icon. He is a modern mythological character.

On 9/11, I kept thinking we could really use Superman right now.

So pick on him all you want. He will always be a hero because he was the first one, and he has inspired many generations.

Oh, the worst superhero has to be NFL Superpro.

Phasing out...

Tie:

Fat Boy from The Justice Friends (Dexter's Laboratory)

The Wonder Twins

Bubbles from the Powerpuff Girls

Rage from the mid-ninties is the worst super-hero ever. One of the worst, most explotative, token characters ever created. Not only was he a stereotype of percieved black culture, he was a sterotype of bad comic writing, Mr. T, and mexican wrestler masks. I hate Rage soooo much. I hate him so much. They should have just called him Tommy Blackman. 'When Tommy Blackman perceives racial inequality, he transforms into the superpowered hero Blackdude! Blackdude with the amazing powers to be the token black guy in any situation. Hear him say interesting things like, "What's up homies?" or "Damn, that cracker."

I hate Rage! I hate him! Die Rage die!

I think that the worst are...

The Hulk - Sure, who doesn't wanna smash stuff. He just gets on my nerves though.

Superman/Captain America: I like them and all but they just give off that whole "I'm better than you" or "My smile is the number one cause of divorce in America." Then again Kryponite can be bought at your local Walmart and magic/mind control totally own Supes.

The Wonder Twins

Aqua Girl - In the words of Hawk, "You can swim underwater like Aquaman but you can't talk to fish?! You suck!"

Guy Gardener: He such a dick and that bowl-cut doesn't help.