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The reason I asked, is that while we were playing, I picked up Mjolnir, and then I attained godhood. I had already been running around with the generator, and it came up and we were wondering how all three of the objects worked together. Since they are different effects, did they affect my damage and attack differently, OR did the rule of three trump all the crap I had been lugging around with Superman.
They all modify the damage value, so in turn all would be subject to the rule of 3.
Now if there were modifiers to damage dealt (Crit Hit, +1 from Soda Machine) these would not be subject to the rule of 3.
Quote : Originally Posted by Necromagus
When I came on board as RA I brought with me a mission to meet the intent of a power/ability and a firm distaste for exploits or loopholes that circumvented the intention of a rule. That's where the Rules team comes in.
If the IG shows the Power Gem and I have a character with a PRINTED range of 0, but a special power granting a range of 6 or more (as if statement in the power). Can the character choose to use CCE or RCE, or would the character have to use the Special Power to get RCE?
i.e.Gravity (SI) gets Incap as if range were 8. Blazam! gets EE as if range were 6. Sauron can use PW as if his range were 10.
Warlord (75th) can make range attacks as if he had a range of 6.
On all but Warlord I would have said no to RCE, but I know Ambidexterity would work for all those powers even before the no-pre-req-assign-feats-but-pre-req-to-use-feats rule.
If the IG shows the Power Gem and I have a character with a PRINTED range of 0, but a special power granting a range of 6 or more (as if statement in the power). Can the character choose to use CCE or RCE, or would the character have to use the Special Power to get RCE?
i.e.Gravity (SI) gets Incap as if range were 8. Blazam! gets EE as if range were 6. Sauron can use PW as if his range were 10.
Warlord (75th) can make range attacks as if he had a range of 6.
On all but Warlord I would have said no to RCE, but I know Ambidexterity would work for all those powers even before the no-pre-req-assign-feats-but-pre-req-to-use-feats rule.
The Power Gem relies on your printed range value, not a range value given by special powers.
OK, then doesn't the generator add 2 after everything else? So I would be subject to the rule of three when it came to the Gauntlet, and Mjolnir, keeping my damage to a nice healthy 8, BUT after I hit him with the gnerator, wouldn't it be a 10?
and then an 11,IF I crit hit?
OK, then doesn't the generator add 2 after everything else? So I would be subject to the rule of three when it came to the Gauntlet, and Mjolnir, keeping my damage to a nice healthy 8, BUT after I hit him with the gnerator, wouldn't it be a 10?
and then an 11,IF I crit hit?
Objects increase the damage value. So they are subject to the rule of 3 like everything else that modifies a combat values.
A couple special objects can increase damage dealt (Soda Machine, Mailbox), but not the Generator.
OK, then doesn't the generator add 2 after everything else? So I would be subject to the rule of three when it came to the Gauntlet, and Mjolnir, keeping my damage to a nice healthy 8, BUT after I hit him with the gnerator, wouldn't it be a 10?
and then an 11,IF I crit hit?
No. Objects add to the character's Damage Value, and as such, are subject to the Rule of 3.
Crit hits, however, add to the Damage Dealt-- so if a Superman with +3 to his Damage Value rolled a Crit Hit, he would deal 9 Damage, total.
I can live with that. So I have to find the Soda Machine. Thanks for the clarification, like I said, we just wanted a bit of clarification, and this helps alot. Still Icons Vet Sups is a BEAST with the gauntlet.
The Power Gem relies on your printed range value, not a range value given by special powers.
The gem requires a printed range value of 4 or less to use CCE. The next sentence says : if this character's range is 5 or more it can use RCE.
Notice the absence of the word 'printed' in the second sentence. Not to be snarky, but I knew what I was asking when I asked it. This makes me think that figs like Warlord can use both.
The gem requires a printed range value of 4 or less to use CCE. The next sentence says : if this character's range is 5 or more it can use RCE.
Notice the absence of the word 'printed' in the second sentence. Not to be snarky, but I knew what I was asking when I asked it. This makes me think that figs like Warlord can use both.
Ooooh, that is an exceptionally good point, which I missed in my reading.
Would a character with 4 range be able to use both the RCE and the CCE granted by the Power Gem when he's on Special #2 or #3?
The gem requires a printed range value of 4 or less to use CCE. The next sentence says : if this character's range is 5 or more it can use RCE.
Notice the absence of the word 'printed' in the second sentence. Not to be snarky, but I knew what I was asking when I asked it. This makes me think that figs like Warlord can use both.
POWER GEM
Cost: 10
Relic: 5-6.
Immobile: If character's printed range value is 4 or less, character can use Close Combat Expert. If character's printed range value is 5 or more, character can use Ranged Combat Expert.
A character can't ever use both. Either its printed range is 4 or less or its printed range is 5 or more.
The gem requires a printed range value of 4 or less to use CCE. The next sentence says : if this character's range is 5 or more it can use RCE.
Notice the absence of the word 'printed' in the second sentence. Not to be snarky, but I knew what I was asking when I asked it. This makes me think that figs like Warlord can use both.
I'm reading my card right now...
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Power Gem If character's printed range value is 4 or less, character can use Close Combat Expert. If character's printed range value is 5 or more, character can use Ranged Combat Expert.
I'm seeing the word printed in both sentences. Maybe you got the wording from a different source, hence the confusion?
I was reading the Units section for the text and assumed it was worded correctly.
Never ever use the Units section for rules related questions. The site's mods/admins do an admirable job keeping it up to date, but mistakes happen. WK's download section has all the relevant material (rulebook, PAC, PG, print and play, etc) available for free.
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How bout somebody update that?
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I was reading the Units section for the text and assumed it was worded correctly. How bout somebody update that?
That will be one demarate on your file for using the units section for rules.... Don't let it happen again.
Quote : Originally Posted by Necromagus
When I came on board as RA I brought with me a mission to meet the intent of a power/ability and a firm distaste for exploits or loopholes that circumvented the intention of a rule. That's where the Rules team comes in.