nothing justifys either seeing through stealth but lois doesnt have range of 7 running shot and damage of 3 .
my arguement is 2 fold, first i dont understand why powers like inv imp and ta stealth are extremely pricey when powers like exploit pb and ultimates/ av init. are so cheap it makes for an unbalanced game, why play 140 bats when 75 point clint can bust him, why play superman when emma frost and archangel own him.....
second it has been said many times from the fanboys that this is "inaccurate" or thats not true to the hero in no world should an average human have these abilities.... i think that by having an 11 attack and sharpshooter ability shows his marksmanship , nothing about his accuracy should allow him to see a fig that is stealthed.

She's a reporter, man! She will investigate the hell out of those Stealthy characters for real.

My only gripe is the 75 point cost. I wish they put him at 65 points; then, he and Natasha (036) would have been 100 points even. Still, I can't wait to pair him up with Coulson (206) and some S.H.I.E.L.D Enforcers (037). Gonna be an awesome tie-up team for driving my opponent nuts.

Yes, surprisingly Trapper is not a major character in the Avengers movie.

The Dark Knight, using his keen intellect, waits for Hawkeye to move into position to running shot him. He then moves exactly 7 squares away from Hawkeye, using his perplex to reduce his range by -1 so it is only a 6, and also outwitting his running shot. Hawkeye then is forced to move or clear. If he moves, he pushes, losing the ability to use running shot or break batman's invulnerability on anything but a 10-12 dice roll, effectively making Batman's defense a 20. If he does not move and clears, Batman can outwit his Energy-shield deflection, perplex up his range to 7, and need a roll of a 6 to make Hawkeye unable to hurt him unless he rolls a 10+.

Or, alternatively, Batman can just perplex down Hawkeye's damage by -1 and outwit his "Found the Weak Spot" power so Hawkeye literally can't hurt him at all.

Oh you meant The Batman? Batman moves up and outwits Hawkeye's running shot. Hawkeye hits batman for 2 damage after toughness. Batman outwits Hawkeye's energy shield and needs a 5-6 to hit him to a part of his dial where once again, Hawkeye cannot hurt him without rolling a 10+.

Hawkeye is a great piece but he certainly doesn't beat either of the new Batman's without a lot of luck on his side.

From a comics standpoint, anti-stealth could be Avengers co-ordination and communication. Not the best, bust more TAs are semi-random.

From a gameplay standpoint, they've been consistently limiting/weakening Stealth for ages, but as some stuff rolls off, they increase other anti-stealth elements. Look at all the low-cost Superman allies in Superman, and now the Avengers Initative.

your scenerio is flawed and is based on player skill not piece to piece , first the dark knights outwit is a 6 range so that is incorrect which means clint strikes first , as for the bats scenerio once again clint stays out of range and can easily get a solid 2 attacks on him prior to matman striking range..... but the big difference is the support point advantage you have 65 points left over to add support to aid clint what could you do for 65 points?

Well summarized. A 75-point figure ought to not be taking down figures close to twice his cost solo.

We are talking about the new Batman with Inv, right? So Hawkeye hits him for 1 damage after rolling a 7. Sounds about right. If he hits with an attack of 10+ that means he was more accurate with his attack, so the additional damage makes sense as well.

Don't see how Hawkeye is "Busting" him so bad as you say.

okay lets actually put it in an post ban 2012 play scenerio.... 140 point team build..
team 1 batman

team 2
hawkeye 75
black widow 35
and since i have a spare 30 points lets put the gauntlet on hawkeye with the soul gem power gem time gem and reality gem
those tems are equla in points and fair right??? so batman still has a huge advantage as well??? come on ppl lets be realistic

Yeah, I don't see how doing one damage to him, is the same as taking him down. I have seen Lian Harper crit hit an SI Iron Fist. Doesn't mean she is much more deadly at 69 less points. She got a hit in.

1. Where are you playing a 140pt game?

2. It's already known that playing a single figure like IM/WM or Supes 001 solo in a 300pt game will have you out actioned and at a disadvantage. That's your choice to play a strong 1-Man team.

3. Even in a 200pts game this Batman will have 60pts of back-up, that in the hands of a halfway decent still won't make Hawkeye as unbalanced as you claim.

So you have to soup up your lower point figure to take down my larger point figure? Not seeing how this is helping your argument.

He's good for the points. But I would like to see at least the old school Hawkeye with a 10 range or more and a 12 attack. It's stupid because Captain America can toss a shield 8 squares, but a guy with a bow and arrow can't surpass 7 squares these days.

An arrow can be shot from a bow the equivalent of 3 football fields in real life....This is just nonsense for people with a bow and arrows to only shoot to 7 squares. Wake up game designers and have a cup reality in the morning!

the point value is an example appearently you cannot see my point, a 75 point figure should not have the ability to first strike , see through stealth and have an opportunity to do penatrating damage to a figure that is almost double its cost in essence cripple a much higher point figure, it is one thing to beef up a fig but when hes already a beast for low points, a little help maks him a curve killer