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Okay, if there was a feat that read, "Assigned character can use Psychic Blast. A character that has a line of fire drawn to it with Psychic Blast by this character has any damage reducers countered until the start of your next turn."
If I gave the feat to Dr. Strange, he obviously could Psychic Blast a Concentrated character, but would the second clause apply?
The question here is, if something removes a line of fire requirement from an attack, does it remove a line of fire requirement from other game text associated with that attack?
I guess I don't understand the question... Dr. Strange can make a ranged combat attack against a character that was "marked" by the Astral Strange regardless of range or LOF.
PW makes a ranged combat attack.
So what is the issue exactly?
Kinda lets u do an old school PW where u didnt care if anyone was in range when u PW.
Old school, in your starting area, U have hookers ( con artists ) and u just PW for 1 to get them off that first click to perplex.
Okay, if there was a feat that read, "Assigned character can use Psychic Blast. A character that has a line of fire drawn to it with Psychic Blast by this character has any damage reducers countered until the start of your next turn."
If I gave the feat to Dr. Strange, he obviously could Psychic Blast a Concentrated character, but would the second clause apply?
The question here is, if something removes a line of fire requirement from an attack, does it remove a line of fire requirement from other game text associated with that attack?
The Concentrate on One Projection removes the LOF requirement. If such a theoretical thing came to be, I'd probably let it work with Concentrate.
So to be clear, Dr. Strange has three friendly con artists within his range. He has an astral across the board adjacent to one friendly character. If DS can make a pulsewave attack through some game effect, the opposing character across the board will take 1 click of damage AND the three friendly con artists will as well?
Also, is this second and third conditions mentioned by mithmyrr correct?
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2: Give Dr. Strange a free action, and choose an opposing character (we will call him OppX) adjacent to the astral. Dr. Strange can now target him with outwit, perplex, or a range combat attack for the rest of the turn, not needing range, LoF, or counting squares.
3: Do whatever you want with the astral. It no longer needs adjacency, so use its move action as a free action SP to hide it somewhere
Can you move your astral, declare the target, then move your astral prior to taking an action with Dr. Strange b/c once the LOF is established you are no good to go? I understand moving the astral, attacking, then moving. But the way he describes it LOF is established without an action being taken by Strange.
CONCENTRATE ON ONE PROJECTION: Give Dr. Strange a free action and choose an opposing character adjacent to a friendly Astral Dr. Strange. This turn, Dr. Strange can target that character regardless of range, squares, or line of fire when making a ranged combat attack or using Outwit or Perplex.
The first sentence establishes that he chooses an opposing character adjacent to an astral. The second sentence, which describes what he can do to that character, only states it has to be that turn, it does not say the astral has to remain adjacent. Once you give Strange the free action and choose the character, the astral does not have to remain adjacent to that character.
Also, is this second and third conditions mentioned by mithmyrr correct? Can you move your astral, declare the target, then move your astral prior to taking an action with Dr. Strange b/c once the LOF is established you are no good to go? I understand moving the astral, attacking, then moving. But the way he describes it LOF is established without an action being taken by Strange.
Thanks.
Sure. The Astral doesn't establish LOF for Strange: this is not like Professor X. Think of it more as the Astral planting a homing beacon on the opposing figure which will obviate any need for LOF or range when Strange uses Perplex, Outwit and/or a ranged attack targeting that figure. The Astral's work is done once he "marks" the opposing figure, so where he goes from there is irrelevant to the power.
And keep in mind, since there is no LOF needed Stealth doesn't matter, blocking doesn't matter, other figure bases don't matter and there is no hindering terrain bonus to DV.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
“No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style.”
OK? I arrive a bit late and I haven't read every answers but I got a problem here :
CONCENTRATE ON ONE PROJECTION: Give Dr. Strange a free action and choose an opposing character adjacent to a friendly Astral Dr. Strange. This turn, Dr. Strange can target that character regardless of range, squares, or line of fire when making a ranged combat attack or using Outwit or Perplex.
I though PW wasn't targeting anyone ? Have I missed something ? (if so my bad)
Because if that is so, then the character adjacent to Astral Strange will not be included in the PW (unless he's also in range of it) since all Strange can do through his "astral clones" is target
You know everyone loves to be the villain. Hugh Grant
OK? I arrive a bit late and I haven't read every answers but I got a problem here :
CONCENTRATE ON ONE PROJECTION: Give Dr. Strange a free action and choose an opposing character adjacent to a friendly Astral Dr. Strange. This turn, Dr. Strange can target that character regardless of range, squares, or line of fire when making a ranged combat attack or using Outwit or Perplex.
I though PW wasn't targeting anyone ? Have I missed something ? (if so my bad)
Because if that is so, then the character adjacent to Astral Strange will not be included in the PW (unless he's also in range of it) since all Strange can do through his "astral clones" is target
This from the PG:
Any game effect that has a line of fire drawn to it is considered a target.
OK, PW targets. Then I have to back up the Orange ruling (they don't need my back up, but my ego is huge) : Strange's PW would indeed include characters adjacent to the Astral Strange.
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You know everyone loves to be the villain. Hugh Grant
Note that Pulse Wave used to state specifically that it did not target. That text was removed some time ago, however, but it seems to have stuck in a lot of people's brains that Pulse Wave Doesn't Target, even though it absolutely does target now.
So just to be clear, can I "Tag" a guy with an Astral, then use Pulse Wave if no other characters are in Dr. Stranges half range? Thus getting the full damage from the Pulse Wave.
OK, PW targets. Then I have to back up the Orange ruling (they don't need my back up, but my ego is huge) : Strange's PW would indeed include characters adjacent to the Astral Strange.
It would include, according to the ruling, any figure "tagged" by Strange using the power. Adjacency to the Astral at the time of the attack isn't relevant.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
“No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife between the shoulder blades will seriously cramp his style.”