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That was for 2 boosters, 1 for each of 2 separate Battle Royals, plus Massachusetts sales tax. And that's part of the problem, that more was charged than the suggested format. And I don't think that judges should get nothing. I'm 40 years old, and am well aware that time is money. I would have been OK with him inserting himself in the draft, even taking first pick! A whole set though? After charging double for the event? That's unreasonable.
A couple of things to note here.
1) The venue pays for these kits. The goal is for them to be used to drive their businesses and make money.
2) What you are describing is not them charging double for the event. Charging double would be $32 per booster.
Quote : Originally Posted by Dmc82581
I'm not surprised by that judge I've known him for awhile and it's not the first time he's prized himself out first. I remember him taking a fellowship prize from someone because he didn't like them.
You may have to explain this a little further.
There's currently not much in the way of guidelines on how to award fellowship prizes, but when WK did have it more clearly spelled out it was to be up to the judge to make a decision on who would get it.
With that as a premise, how would he take it away? Why wouldn't he just not give it?
As mentioned in my last post, it was a 2-booster format at the venue. This also resulted in people filling the set before month 4 (if they played more than one venue) so boosters were bought knowing that none of the pieces inside were needed.
I had even asked at the start of the game "Did we get one or two prize packs?" and was told "Two."
Nothing was said about judge prizing until Grand Prize Draft time.
Ok, all this, assuming its actually how things happened, changes the entire situation.
I got a set myself for Judging. But only because I discussed it with the store owner at the beginning of all this. He agreed it was pretty crappy WKs wasn't supporting the Judges, so we ordered an extra GP kit. That way, even if we had a higher turnout, nobody gets screwed out of anything. And most importantly, my player knew exactly what the situation was from the beginning.
Month 4, we only had 7 people. Everybody got one pick, and the top finisher got the leftover prize. If there had been more people, I would've put a second set out. But again, everybody knew how it was going to work, and I wouldn't have let anybody not get at least 1 pick. And the leftover prize sets are going to be used for another event.
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Sharp contrast from my venue where the players had ZERO issue with the judge, who got nothing for running the previous Civil War events, taking a prize kit.
So many people seem take what the judges do for granted and decide they don't deserve any prizes. As a former judge, I can tell you it is hard. Things don't just work themselves out. Schedules don't write themselves. Events don't report themselves (and I know a great many judges who wish they would given the issues with the reporting system). Heck even some product orders wouldn't be correct if not for judges. I'm thankful for our judge and am more than happy he got some compensation for all the work he puts into making our venue run as well as it does. It's sad to read about players acting like they deserve more than they got.
It's funny, usually the folks who get the most up in arms about this sort of thing are the ones who wouldn't think of judging for any length of time.
SIDEBAR: I see we've got a "no, YOU read moar bettar" exchange going on in this thread. Always fun to see.
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Also, I love the fact that posters are talking about how I am butthurt and wanted MOAR when my OP succinctly said that I got what I wanted. I play primarily DC, so all I wanted was Namor for my Atlantis teams and IronMerica for Armor teams. Mission accomplished. I probably should have put that in the first sentence so people would have read it before skipping the reading part and posting blindly.
I promise you I'm not trying to argue I am generally interested. But what exactly do your judges do? I mean I have very small group of extremely honest individuals who have all been playing at least 4yrs or more. But beyond coming up with the format and handing us prizes, he doesn't do a whole lot. I mean he is a good guy and comes up with great formats formats to play but he also works at the shop. I'm just curious how much your judges do?
Dealing with all sorts of other issues that most players are never even aware of, mainly. Granted, its going to vary from store to store. For me, I have to help advise the store owner on ordering product, promote the game locally to help drive event attendance and sales, deal with issues from WKs and Alliance like Event System stuff not working, product not showing up on time, random errors in the Alliance system screwing with our pre-orders.
All sorts of stuff. And that's all just stuff off the top of my head that I have personally dealt with in the past 2 weeks. Doesn't even include things like problematic players, helping new players learn the game, making sure I'm as current as possible on rulings and understand the rules well enough to explain them to people when things come up, etc.
And for me personally, its a bit of a physical sacrifice at times. I'm disabled, and going out to the game store once a week and doing all these things is considerably more taxing on me than it is most people. I can't really get to other venues to play (my venue is less than 10 mins away), and I only play in my own events if I need to even out the numbers. Sometimes, just sitting and playing a round really does a number on my back and legs, but I'd rather deal with it than have one of my players sitting around bored with a bye.
So yeah, its a lot. If all you see your judge doing is making up formats and handing out prizes, he's probably doing things right. Or he's lazy.
Yeah, they were the Judges prizes since they ran 4 months worth of events with no Judge prizes for each of those months. The set of OP prizes were theirs if the venue decided to reward them with it.
In every WK solicitation, there were only 8 prizes slated for the top 8 players. You happened to see a 2nd set, got greedy, and assumed it would be yours. Seems like someone made the incorrect assumptions, and it wasn't the Judge.
Maybe become a Judge with a venue who will compensate you fairly for your time and you can get a set for doing what the Judge does.
Or complain about it on the internet. Your choice.
Actually this event the way it was set up there was no judge support period...So unless the venue gave them to him then yes it's bs
Also, I love the fact that posters are talking about how I am butthurt and wanted MOAR when my OP succinctly said that I got what I wanted. I play primarily DC, so all I wanted was Namor for my Atlantis teams and IronMerica for Armor teams. Mission accomplished. I probably should have put that in the first sentence so people would have read it before skipping the reading part and posting blindly.
I think everybody can tell you are severly 'butthurt' from reading your message to the judge. Why don't you say that to his face? What did you think this thread would accomplish? Why didn't you discuss this with your judge and venue? Nevermind, we know why. I'll just wait for this to be locked.
The included instructions specific state that if there are two kits, the extras are "flex." Meaning that the store can give Judge support. Which it seems virtually every venue did.
Our final event we had 6 players. We ran 2 3 player games, and the grand prize kit was split among the 2 tables, the also tossed 2 of the sealed prizes and a Dr. Nemesis and Vampire Wolverine at each table.
Needless to say, none of us whined or complained when the judge got a full set of Grand prizes fron the store