However ... it would be satisfying mostly:

(a) players in and around the host location

(b) players that are unwilling to travel to the US, but willing to travel through several countries within the same continent

(c) those that would have gone to the American PCs anyway because they'll save some money.

It will only really 'enable' a few more people to attend PCs that wouldn't have already done so. Most people are either able, or unable to travel ... anyone outside of a days driving distance to the PC wouldn't be much more willing to attend a PC regardless of where it was ...

It's the old dilemma, bird in the hand worth two in the bush. They have to know they can 'pull it off' otherwise it wouldn't be worth it. Holding a PC outside the US means they need to ensure that they set things up to get a lot of the pro tour players to be able to get there.

10Ks and PCQs are 'for everyone' and UDE seems to be trying to get them all over the place.

With only 4 PCs a year it's hard to be 'fair' with their distribution ... and it would seem that UDE would prefer to choose a viable location that they are comfortable with and will have minimal prep work, etc ... MOST people at any given PC will have to travel to get there regardless of where it's put. It's not MEANT to be a local event ...

and I'm tired of the appalling behaviour of the americans who have posted to this thread. They should be ashamed of themselves. What kind of message is just saying 'die'? It's not even funny. I can only hope they have learned to grow up a bit. Were I in charge they'd be out the door faster than flash.

I totally agree with you on that one....

Ok we speak about the fact that UDE doesn't care about "non USA" countries and then this is the usual xenophobic (pardon my french) topic or the fact that Mr Moron want a PC in his Kitchen at IleaveNowhere city.....

Lets get back to the topis :

* VS is an american game, we all agree with that.
* USA have the biggest pool of players, we all agree with that,

But,

I realise that in europe there is another factor witch is a cultural problem and no one talked about that.
In Europe we don't have the "marvel/DC Super heroes culture".
The comics and all what is related to is quite an institution in the USA, I know quite a lot of people in France that don't have a clue to who is the batman......
Does we have a "Captain France"... no, most of our fantasy here in europe is coming the the celtic legends and historically, our heroes are not "modern heroes". Assuming the fact that USA is really a young country regarding the Old europe.

So VS does not have the impact of MTG in europe because simply despite the fact that the game is very good, players are not concerned about what is all around the game..... I couldn't tell you how many times I heard people saying "VS is OK but I'm not in the super heroes story".
Let's face the reality, tournament in france are not very popular and when you are doing a 10K in europe you have like the equivalent of a PCQ in a big US city in terms of players.

All that to say that YES UDE doesn't really care about Europe because, simply Europe doesn't really care about UDE, then don't make a lot of money with us.

Come back on earth guys the main goal of UDE is making money not just entertain you during the week-ends.

We are all concerned here on this forum because we are in the trip VS but the player community is far from being a big one here.

I organize tournament twice a month, I started 6 month ago, we were 4 the forst tournament we were 10 at the last one, the guys that are organizing the MTG and YGO tournament are 30 and need to refuse players every months.

When I asked UDE to organize a PCQ in my region, the answer was obviously "we cannot organize a PCQ for 10/15 people". I understand their concern, now you change PCQ by a PC and you move that to a Country level and you have an answer to the question.

Now for all the bull#### I have read on this post about americains, UK, etc etc and all what I consider quite close to racism I would just refer to a sentence by Albert Einsten :
"2 things are unlimited, the universe and the stupidity of the human being....... but for the universe I'm not quite sure."

P.S.: Pardon my English, I'm not english native and sorry if it's not very understandable.

Personally, I am ashamed. I might be the only one left. The current White House has proven that we are quite immune to it as a nation.

It's not MEANT to be a local event ...

Indeed but you can hardly say that asking for 1 ANYWHERE in Europe is asking for a local event.

Ok Euro guys, If I win the Euromillion this week-end I'll organise a PC in my garden this summer....

Beleive me with that you have more chances to see a PC in europe for 2006 than anything else....:p

After talking with UDE representative, they explain me that the first PC was organized in europe by UDE US, but now it's the responsability to UDE europe to organize the PC in europe (UDE Europe = NL) but so far they are not ready for that this year, but we'll see an european PC in 2007.

It's not that UDE doesn't want to support Europe it's a mear fact of business that international business can be more costly and that UDE is going to launch in the states first because it is less costly for them to do that. You have to remember that at the end of the day this is a business and UDE must make fiscally responsible decisions. I don't disagree that it still sucks for the European players because they can be "behind the 8-ball" at PC drafts and what not, but I wouldn't take it as an insult. I'm sure we Americans would be in the same situation if UDE was European based.

As for Bush and our country being arrogant or whatever, that is a very bad and generalized statement. First, I didn't vote for that moron in the first place and his approval rating is in the ####ter. Second, most of the American influence comes from the rich with is about 1% to 2% of our population so you can't fault an entire nation on that perspective.

$10K's in Europe have had more than 100 players always. In Spain, about 40 people attends normally to PCQ's, wich is more than in most of American PCQ's. Our $10K had 120 players and... 116 from Spain!!! C'mon guys, the player pool is here, just explore and let the game expand with major events!

Again, there's no doubt that the European players are talented and dedicated to the game. It comes down to the cost and obstacles of doing international business. I think that Europe should get more tournaments, but I would imagine that the costs in doing so are pretty significant to UDE.

Don't worry I'm sure most of the people with a brain here are aware of that. and being a moron is not nation dependent anyway...


It's costly as you said to organise here a major event but with Yugioh, UDE have developped the necessary infrastructure in Europe I think it's not the fact to bring a "know-how" here in europe in term of organising a tournament but mainly that the major events should be prepare by UDE Europe and so far they didn't planned to do so this year or they where not ready when the planning was done.

I know, I just get tired of hearing the ole' Americans are so arrogant, yada, yada thing. I think back in the day of like my dad and his parents that may have been true. I think that nowadays the view that American are arrogant and only care about our borders is misconstrued because we have a number of problems in our own country and our fearless leader keeps send help and money to the rest of the world and doesn't bother to fix anything here. Most recently we had an entire and very large city destroyed by a hurricane and what does our president do, he takes that aid and sends it oversees. Meanwhile..........
:cry:

Does UDE have a headquarters or office in Europe? Didn't realize that. It's hard to compare YGO and VS because YGO is also supported by Konami.

DK

That I can agree with. They've done such a good job hiring talented individuals for development on the game but they need to not forget the customer care portion of the business.