I feel Morph is a better candidate than Wade, but considering the Wade lynch has more momentum, I won't split the vote.

change vote: Wade Wilson

Well, now I understand things a bit better this morning. I agree, Mouse and thank you for not splitting the vote (it had me concerned at first but then you stated your ideas and didn't split the vote).

I'll add to that pressure:

Vote Lynch Wade

Initially, I made a post asking why we were still voting for H&C.
But then I realised, aside from pressure our reasons hadn't changed.
We thought it could be possible (or at least I did) that he was the Dwarf.
Now lets not forget that Truffle was evil (Pilgrim is evil and mafia), but the fact remains that she was still contolled by the Dwarf into killing JoH.
No one else stepped forward saying they were the brainwashed one, and someone was brainwashed by that writeup on that night.

So then, why did our reasons for voting for H&C change?
Are they any less valid for voting for him that first (or second) night?
What difference did Truffle's alignment really make, it's not like her being mafia says that H&C couldn't be something else.
And if our reasons are not valid now (and look scummy) then they always looked that way, and we should also look for people starting the lynch on him the first few times.
That is, of course, if we've now determined that this line of reasoning is scummy.
And I don't think it is.

Lynch Tally

Havoc&Chaos: Tyroman, HZ, TVK, Stranger, MorphD, ViciousBuddah,
WadeWilson: JoH & Pax, MBauers, Maniac, Kontrol, Anonym0use, Coyote
JackofHearts: WadeWilson

Eh?

H&C could still be an SK type. Also Morph and/or Wade could be investigated tonight just as easily as H&C could. Werewolf by Night says H&C did nothing last night and we definitely didn't see the Dwarf do anything either. I'm just not following why people think H&C would be a 'bad' lynch. Sure he could be a second tracker, but he could also be a the Dwarf. Neither path has been proven wrong yet.

Is there anything in this that makes anybody think that Pilgrim was mind controled? He's always got rage and power and dark skin and determination and malice. He's always hated Blaze.

He doesn't look like he's got any new powers to me either.

One of the only two reasons anybody though the Dwarf had anything to do with it is because people thought Truffle wasn't a Lilin.

But what do we know about Morph and Wade? - nothing AFAIK.

I don't necessarily think H&C is a bad lynch, however, we've tried pressuring H&C - it didn't work. We won't get information from him today. I'd rather let the vig sort out H&C (or truffle tonight), and get some more info going into the night phase by putting the screws to Wade/Morph.

The Dwarf is around, we can see that from the previous portion of that night that says "open it, you know you want to" etc etc.
So;
1) The Dwarf is here.
2) The Lilin tried to make a kill that night and had targetted you as well.
3) Pilgrim was mind-controlled (letter-controlled whatever) that night.

Where is part 3 coming from?

Where is the slightest bit of evidence that the Dwarf forces people to make night kills?

Back in the day, when somebody outted a mafia member, you didn't lynch the outer, you lynched the mafia.

How else would Pilgrim have made a kill?
That would be suggesting that the children of Lilin perform more than one kill a night. (If they are the mafia, which is pretty likely at this point).

Good thing we're not back in the day, eh Jacko?

Well Stranger has officially hit my "danger" radar.

I will conceed that it's possible that if The Dwarf is independant he could have MC'd a mafia member therby granting two mafia kills. Poor Truffle, she might not have been caught otherwise.

In any case, what exactly is the argument to lynch H&C?

Is something I'm saying not making sense?
Am I messing something up?
I don't understand why H&C is automatically set loose because Truffle was mafia.
Yes she could be trying to paint a townie as the Dwarf.
Or, she could just as easily be the mafia, wanting to get rid of the Dwarf.

Why am I suddenly "danger" radar?

I'm not saying we defnitely should, I mean if he's a tracker I'm going to feel like ####.
But I just don't want to set him loose because the reasons are just as valid as they were the first vote on him.

No one's setting him loose. We know he's under suspcion.

However, I'd like to know why you're for lynching H&C?