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It all comes down to one theory, The Male Gaze.
Media, comic books in this case, are made with a male reader in mind, despite who the actual reader is.
This basicly leads to other theories, but the point is, women are in most cases treated like objecs and not people, example:
It all comes down to one theory, The Male Gaze.
Media, comic books in this case, are made with a male reader in mind, despite who the actual reader is.
This basicly leads to other theories, but the point is, women are in most cases treated like objecs and not people, example:
You should read some of Brian Clevinger's stuff, then. Namely Atomic Robo.
No “cheesecake”: This is nothing more than Scott and I having the audacity to treat women like human beings. I mean, come on, 99 times out of a 100, there is no reason at all to frame a panel from the perspective of a girl’s ###. Grow up already.
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It all comes down to one theory, The Male Gaze.
Media, comic books in this case, are made with a male reader in mind, despite who the actual reader is.
This basicly leads to other theories, but the point is, women are in most cases treated like objecs and not people, example:
The most egregious example of this in the comics I'm currently reading is Red Lantern Corps. Pretty much every single time Bleez is on-panel (or on-cover!) she's sticking her ### or her breasts or both out at the reader. It reaches all new levels of disgustingness when you consider the fact that Bleez's backstory, as flashed-back-to in that very series, is that she was raped*. So what we have is a book written very nicely by Peter Milligan and filled to the brim with "sexy" ###-shots of a rape survivor by Ed Benes. Classy, Ed Benes.
*While the trope of rape as backstory is problematic for different reasons, I'd say for a Red Lantern Corps member it fits. It fits in a vacuum anyway, where the writer and artist don't use it as an opportunity for further exploitation.
There is a difference from being sexy, to cheesecake pandering.
Yes, rape victims can be sexy, but they would not be shoving their boobs and butt all the time. And if we realize that this is just some writer or some artist, posing these characters so that their "attributes" are on display for the reader, that is not sexy.
There is a difference from being sexy, to cheesecake pandering.
Yes, rape victims can be sexy, but they would not be shoving their boobs and butt all the time. And if we realize that this is just some writer or some artist, posing these characters so that their "attributes" are on display for the reader, that is not sexy.
If that were the case then every women would be flat chested and have no butt what-so-ever
not really... I am not saying dont draw diversity, I am saying DRAW DIVERSITY!
and there is nothing wrong with characters with big boobs or buts, there are people in real life like that. But the boobs and butt do not need to be the focus of every panel
I mean, the rape scene in Dragon Tattoo is brutal, but that doesn't mean I can't find Rooney Mara sexy as hell in a later sex scene.
I haven't seen Girl With the Dragon Tattoo because the book put me to sleep and because the re-titling of the book and film from what Wikipedia tells me was the original Swedish title--Män som hatar kvinnor ("Men Who Hate Women")--reminds me of how backwards, androcentric and frankly disturbing North American society can get.
However, there are two scenarios at play here and the difference between them is quite significant. One, which may or may not match the Dragon Tattoo, is a rape survivor coming to terms with their rape and deciding to maintain or re-establish their sexual identity. Such a story, handled maturely and respectfully, is a perfectly legitimate and potentially valuable story to tell.
On the other side of a coin we have a character who is defined by being a rape survivor and not being even remotely over it, hence belonging to the Lantern Corps of Rage. Any depictions of her acting sexy should only occur in a context that addresses the negative feelings a rape survivor might have about their own sexuality or even sexuality in general. Preferably, this sort of thing would be shown in such a way that would make the reader feel as awkward as possible--the goal being to prevent them from finding the scene prurient.
That is precisely where Ed Benes fails. When he's showing off Bleez's ###, he isn't doing it to tell a story about sexuality. Heck, she isn't even getting up to anything sexual! She's fighting with Atrocitus over leadership of the Red Lantern Corps. She should look like a ferocious warrior, not a pin-up model. Ed Benes is putting her in "sexy" poses entirely out of prurience. There isn't a single justifiable reason for it, it just objectifies her, adds to the gross objectification of women in superhero comics, and makes Ed Benes want to beat off. It's disgusting.
My initial reaction to this post, by the way, was to think it was pretty gross that you found such a scene sexy, but if I had to take a stab in the dark I think I'd lay that mostly at the filmmaker's feet and only partially at yours. Since I haven't seen the film in question, though, I have no fair comment to make on that.