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What this really says to me is that in the eyes of WK/NECA, apparently all gorillas look alike. What, Solovar and Grodd aren't distinct enough you gotta reuse one all-purpose gorilla painted up to be one or the other?
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i was hoping we'd see the complete contents of the prize kit. some of us have game schedules to plan.
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Disagree. He's still very playable. An opponent getting one use of free perplex isn't the end of the world.
I'll disagree with your disagree. There are no restrictions to how your opponent can use the free perplex. They can target anyone on the map. You are still limited to LOS and 10 squares. Basically, you're paying to let your opponent have perplex. That's never a good investment.
Okay, correct me if I'm wrong here but it is suppose to be DC 75 and there is no Joker, Hawkman or Darkseid? What about Supergirl, new batgirl, Red Robin (Tim Drake)? I don't understand some of these figs (The Atom, Osiris, Mera, Aquaman) that have just been done. So yes I'm hatin’ some of this set and the logic behind it. If Hawkman isn't one of the LE's then something is seriously wrong here, especially after showing the map with Hawkworld.
I agree with you on everything but the Atom. Because this atom is the original JSA Al Pratt Atom and has never been clixed before.
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I am actually typing this while banging my head against my keyboard and my rage is forming the words on the computer screen.
I'm thinking that Gleek wasn't designed for "competitive play," which is fine by me. Not every piece needs to be ludicrously effective. There's room in the game for dials that are just plain ludicrous.
There's "not being competitive" and then there's "being a liability". Sure he's a tie up piece, but not an especially good one. Three clicks of health and 14 def + CR means he can be ignored or picked off at your leisure.
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Okay, correct me if I'm wrong here but it is suppose to be DC 75 and there is no Joker, Hawkman or Darkseid? What about Supergirl, new batgirl, Red Robin (Tim Drake)? I don't understand some of these figs (The Atom, Osiris, Mera, Aquaman) that have just been done. So yes I'm hatin’ some of this set and the logic behind it. If Hawkman isn't one of the LE's then something is seriously wrong here, especially after showing the map with Hawkworld.
I loves me the Hawkman, but I don't feel that his inclusion was necessary in the set. Most of the figures you mentioned also have solid (Modern Age even) representations.
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I don't understand the map choice either, but there's no way to do a Hawkman LE for this set, since there are no models you could repaint for it. Hopefully there will be Thanagarian generics and a Hawkman in the next DC set. And a new Hawkgirl with some decent keywords as well.
Well, I don't know what to say about grodd. I'm happy that they made a cheaper grodd so that he's easier to field, and the slightly different keywords are great. I've had a bit of trouble getting all of the various different villains to fit into comic accurate teams. Society, SSoSV, injustice league, injustice gang and so forth. It can be very frustrating so i am glad for another version. though i agree that some other pieces probably deserved a spot (silver banshee? anyone?). good dial either way.
Gleek is a different story. I agree one on one, he would be a terrible piece to field. However, i must disagree that he's a bad choice for multiplayer games. the more people against you the BETTER he becomes. Multiple opponents will likely start using their free perplex against each other not just against you. every time it is used against someone else it's actually helping you. so it is conceivable that the more people your up against the more he benefits you than hinders you.
Don't forget that it has to happen at the beginning of the opponent's turn or not at all.
Much like Outsiders (which I sometimes forget to use), Leadership (we've all forgot one round or two), and Poison (never forget), if your opponent is preoccupied, vengeance filled, or too blood thirsty, they may forget to do it.
I'm not going to remind them...
I think Gleek wins the meta-game. Because your opponent has no desire to KO him, you get to tie up pieces that will now rather break away than attack him!
A 50/50 chance at no damage is better than the stat increase one of his figures will get. In multiplayer he is friends with everyone, and may even get saved by opposing figures.
When worse comes to worse, you can push 3 times or use a telephone booth to kamikaze him. Unless your rounds are very short, 21 points rarely makes a difference. I plan on using him, both with and without the W'Twins.
At least Grodd can be given the Society ATA. That's about the best thing I can say about him, though.
In the hands of a skilled player (more skilled than myself), Gleek may be annoying. I can see that if I were playing against Gleek, I may not be wanting to take him out, because he's helpful to me. There's not a whole lot else keeping his three clicks in the game. In the meantime, Gleek's player can be using him to tie up your ranged pieces, use Perplex against you, and just get in the way. It might be worth 21 points.
Grodd doesn't have a whole lot keeping him alive at 116 points. I already have a playable AA Grodd and his Sinestro Corps LE. This one looks like junk, and should have been a gorilla form for Beast Boy.
I think the designers did a FANTASTIC job with the dial.
I love that the feat really makes you seriously think about how to make him useful, but the 'negative trait' isn't bad enough to make you deem him absolutely useless. He's also a potent tie-up piece whose trait makes him a VERY undesirable target, especially since, for the the opponent, killing a 21 point figure that gives them FREE PERPLEX; they'll scoff at it and just hope that the monkey tying them up isn't going to bit them in the arse
I think he'd work best on a team that's poised to making the first strike everytime. something like Kid Zoom + Thorbuster. Because if you can land in the first successful shot, your opponents extra perplex may not even matter.
There is definite potential in this figure. I'm glad the designers are dabbling with 'negative traits' and making dials that REALLY make players think (like Deadpool).