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So I have been waiting since the dawn of the game for Harley with a mallet. I mentioned that I wished she had a mallet instead of a bomb long long ago when the Hypertime version was the only one that existed.
So now, we get our Harley with a mallet. Lack of special powers/traits or whatever aside, below average stats in every category aside, questinoable worth for point cost aside, there is one thing that just blatantly screams at me.
It's Harley with a mallet.
She starts with ranged combat expert.
What? She also starts with 6 speed, which, considering that I want to use her to... hit people on the head with her awesome mallet, doesn't work. I really wish that click #1 and #2 were swapped so I could quake people away and then maybe ranged combat expert them. As is, what does that pathetic 6 movement charge click even do execpt make her more expensive? SHe already has longer range and does more damage at range. Why would I bother to get in close if I could just shoot somebody for 4. I suppose it could be to attack Batman ally characters... but wait, they all have ranges of 4 or more so they'll just shoot Harley before she can ever charge anyway.
Not to mention, she's just bad. Her stats are bad. She has no support powers. Her only usefulness is to carry people 4 squares. I mean, seriously, compare her to any recent Batman related character of similar point cost.
bm014 E Harley Quinn
Team: Underworld
Range: 5
Points: 50
Keywords: Arkham Asylum, Gotham City Sirens
d10a014 E Robin
Team: Batman Ally
Range: 6
Points: 52
Keywords: Batman Family, Detective, Gotham City, Teen Titans
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(Special) Battlefield Promotion: Nightwing: When Robin hits one or more opposing characters, after actions resolve, place a Promotion Token on his character card. You may then roll a d6 that can't be rerolled and add 1 for each Promotion Token on his character card; on a result of 8 or higher, replace this character with D10A #007 Nightwing on the same click number.
d10a006 E Batgirl
Team: Batman Ally
Range: 4
Points: 42
Keywords: Batman Family, Gotham City, Martial Artist
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(Special) Battlefield Promotion: Oracle: When Batgirl hits one or more opposing characters, after actions resolve, place a Promotion Token on her character card. You may then roll a d6 that can't be rerolled and add 1 for each Promotion Token on her character card; on a result of 8 or higher, replace this character with D10A #017 Oracle on the same click number.
ffbm006 R Batgirl
Team: Batman Ally
Range: 6
Points: 50
Keywords: Batman Family, Detective
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ffbm002 E Damian Wayne
Team: Batman Ally
Range: 0
Points: 50
Keywords: Batman Family, Kid, League of Assassins, Martial Artist
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(Damage) Begrudging Allies: When Damian Wayne is adjacent to a friendly character named Red Robin, Damian Wayne can use Outwit until your next turn. When Damian Wayne uses Outwit, friendly characters named Red Robin modify their defense values by -1 until your next turn.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PIECES has the following.
1. Support powers like outwit, perplex, or enhancement, despite being 50ish points.
2. Higher stats than Harley in every category other than range.
Needless to say, this Harley is very disappointing and no gimmick blades/flurry click at the end because she has pet hyenas is going to save her.
Wow. As if my day wasn't gloomy and depressing enough now WK thows this...dial at us. The one figure sorely in need of a serious makeover, that hasn't had any love since HT, and we get this. It is almost as if they want us to buy the FF, CTD and TabApp to get the REALversion.
Fixed it for you
"Tis better to push and take one damage, than to pass and get wiped off the map."
This figure is pretty good. I love that last click a lot!. the TA is very helpful along with the trait. RCE is pretty nast doing 4 damage at that low of a point level, though I find it off that its front loaded since her sculpt has a giant hammer.
So 50 points nets you a character who can deal out 4 damage with an ok attack value of 9 and has SS backing her up AND people are upset by this?
Wow power creep has ruined you people. This is an awesome little dial that can easily be utilized properly. The only thing I don't like are the keywords. No Gotham City, No Gotham City Underworld, no Brute
I was thinking the same thing. Is that what kids do the +1 thing for these days?
What am I gonna use this for?
Crappy Dial and Crappy Keywords...
I don't read dc much.... But what can ya expect?.... it's only Harley. At best she is just a thug.... A crazy thug, but a thug all the same. No special training, no powers, and no mystic abilities. For a joker Lt. this is a good dial.
I think that, and the lack of perplex are the #1 and #2 reasons this dial is not connecting with the masses.
Agreed. Harley really ought to have Perplex.
I mean, everyone trying to justify this dial is basically using the Underworld TA as their reason: Is Harley Quinn known for carrying people around with her?
Quote : Originally Posted by TheRealWolf
I don't read dc much.... But what can ya expect?.... it's only Harley. At best she is just a thug.... A crazy thug, but a thug all the same. No special training, no powers, and no mystic abilities. For a joker Lt. this is a good dial.
I expected some sort of special power related to the Joker, considering she's his sidekick, his girlfriend, AND his doctor.
Also, from her Wikipedia entry (I wasn't actually aware of this bit until just now): "She later becomes fast friends with Poison Ivy, who injects her with antitoxin which gives her super strength, agility, and toxin immunity."
Oh man, we got a Negative Man and a Jimmy Olsen? Now I need to think of a new signature after all these years!
Not sure why people are complaining so much, since she doesn't actually have any kind of real combat training. She's basically a crazy henchman with a flashier costume. What did you really expect?