My problem with Tuttle: He left this impression.

I never had any personal experience with him, and almost no one in this thread did, but yet he left an awful taste in people's mouths, and left with a horrid reputation,and regardless of what he did or didn't do,as a PR person that's the worst crime he could commit.

I heard it's Tuttle's fault the economy is the way it is right now. Just what I heard though.

I can't dislike you, you was Great in my 100 Favorite Movies game.

Now go do, that voodoo, that you do, SO WELL!!!!

(Not my best fakeclaim, but my favorite)

The Devil was misunderstood too.

If we don't remember the bad things of the past we are doom to repeit it. This could be useful to prevent any other person even close to Tuttle way to be to get near Heroclix.

Tuttle' name is cursed by MANY every time is remember. (But I should point out that I don't know how many still suport him and how many strongly dislike him).

Those who cannot remember the past are Dr. Doomed to repeat it.

Dax I don't doubt the possibility that he was good for Clix. I still dislike a PR man who has trouble reaching a major portion of his consumers.

Much of what I'd write has been written, but I'll emphasize the following:

I'm sure there were many decisions that Mark Tuttle was "forced" into unwillingly. For example, I cannot believe that as Brand Manager he would have pulled support from a gaming convention for minor presence at a Star Wars convention. (when was this... 2006?).

My negative opinion of him is from his inability to "talk straight" with folks:

Does anybody truly believe that WK opened several cases of Avengers and didn't notice that the dials were incredibly hard to turn...yet he was on the WK forums promoting them as the best thing ever! I can understand trying to save face, but this was simply absurd.

Another absurdity: denying that dials from certain sets "blacken". This was another case of something that was quite obvious, and there were plenty of people offering examples...and yet his response was again "I don't see any problem." De' Nile ain't just a river in Egypt!

My least favorite personal interaction was with him at an envoy appreciation night, when he was hinting about getting rid of REVs (and adding chases) because "there was no value in the old boosters". I stood up and told him that I had just traded in something like $100 worth of figures, almost all of it in yellow/blue/red ring figures. His response to me was "No you didn't."

WTF kind of response is that?! Was his reality so threatened that he actually had to accuse me of lying?

On the topic of Karl's removal as RA: I've not been shy about my opinion that it was time for Karl to move on...he'd been the RA for over two years, and AP was ready for some new blood....but instead of just "firing" Hair10 and offering a reasonable excuse, the entire affair turned into an unnecessarily vindictive episode.

I KNEW IT!!!

Tut may not have talked John Cleese out of anything, but he did talk WK out of being an industry innovator and into a "following the pack" mentality.

Tut may not have damaged the Earth's atmosphere, but he did damage the atmosphere of HeroClix's Approved Play.

Tuttle may not kick dogs or bite babies but his taste in sculpts certainly bites. You can't use a sneak peak to entice players to buy if the figures look like ####.

Tuttle may not have dug a hole in the road but he certainly dug himself into a hole he couldn't get out of.

His job was to make money and make customers happy. Did HeroClix gain more players or lose players during his reign? I do know Topps wasn't happy enough with the game to envelop it into their own operations - they just cut it loose.

Relly No disrespect to you Dax. But I will really like to know how many people agree or disagree with this line.

If I meet him I would ask him if he know about my and others opinions about him. of course he will deny everything like he always did. And call him the Devil of Heroclix could make him even feel better and more important about himself, but I still could say that to him but I would like to do something more creative to show my dislike about him or do nothing in all because he is not a good person enough to care about the game we love or good enough to apology at least online and much less in person.