i am more than willing to help vote on either, and will be on throughout the day. Vote Velius unless somebody wants me to vote for maelstrom later, because both seem kinda scummy and I get bad vibes from Velius..

I will hold off for now, but I am able to jump on. I'm not entirely sure I follow Darq's logic, but nothing new there.

I also might have missed something stated.

I wouldn't really call it logic, just a guess from the writeup. Fiona Glenanne won last game, so she's likely here. The N0 kill was done by a sharpshooter. While Fiona is known for her bomb-making skills, she's also a crack shot. The Nightkill in N0 is usually done by the Mafia, not the SK though... I have no idea why people are saying she's the SK. That's more of a Mafia-tell than anything.

I have no idea why/how CaptHulk says he knows Velius is Fiona, but it was better than nothing.

Also, at the time it was late, and I missed him saying he Failed. So he can address that along with Velius, as well.

True, Fiona is death incarnate with a gun. At least she was when I played her.

In the past, surviving characters have changed alignment. Didn't a serial killer come back as the town vig?

Anyhow, not saying that has happened, but it is hard to know with only one kill, and Captthulkman claiming information, a blocked action, and not throwing down a vote on Velius is rather contradictory. I would like to hear something more direct for him. Right now he is implicating both Velius and himself.

Yes, returning roles change alignment routinely. Town have become Neutral, Mafia have become a Serial Killer, Serial Killer has become Town. So anything's fair game.
The alignment changes tend to have some sort of motivation at least though. Season 3 was won by Keith Mars, Cordelia Chase and Claire Bennet. In Season 4, Cordelia and Claire were Neutral Survivors since they were both immortals (and the Mafia theme was characters that died before the first episode yet still held influence of the show), but Keith remained Town. It's certainly possible that one or more of the survivors from last game have become Mafia and/or SK - it depends on the Mafia theme, and that's hard to tell without any autopsies.

Whoa you guys, I was just thinking of possibilities. I am not scum.

Yeah one of the ones I played I was Hannibal the Town Vig who was Hannibal the Serial Killer in the previous game.

I know he is Fiona because I am masoned with him. We are both neutral survivors that can't win with each other but we can't affect each other with our actions. I'm also pretty sure he has some sort of kill power. Decided to try it this way instead of playing in the shadows. Will it bite me in the butt? Maybe.

vote velius

...such an odd play. I can't imagine Magneto would create Mason-Neutrals with competing win conditions, AND allow you to out him like this.

remove vote

For now. This just didn't feel right.

I'm being honest here. Investigate him tonight. Why would I tell you all this if we weren't competing? The PM didn't say I couldn't out him.

Wait what what?

Weird play. I would like to hear from Velius..

So ami to assume you are Hannibal Lecter, CaptHulk?