Does anyone else see a JF shooting an elite VTOL and then having to chase the VTOL around the board for the rest of the game.LOL

Nope. The damage values on the Mechs are pretty good and the +1 helps alot. Also, the JF Mechs have way great heat dials. It would be a very short chance.

Why would anyone ever play anything other than falcon units now.

so ... Arnis still rocks , huh? can't hit him with DFA still . What's going to hurt Evade 'Mechs now is Homing Beacon . and Armor Piercing :)

i thought WK FAQed that when it comes to Ruthlessness, Uniques and LEs are treat as such for game play purposes whether or not they have chevrons? can someone enlighten me?

You'd think that, but you'd be wrong!!!! Here's why... Turn one, I drop a Fa'Shih on arnis and run my JF mech within DFA range. Now, if Arnis fails his break, he's in big trouble... Wanna know why? Turn two, I DFA Arnis in the rear arc.. Sure, he only takes one damage, but I don't take any and now Arnis has to waste a turn just turning to face me. Meanwhile I'm lining up the shot...

It's not perfect, but you get the point. CJF isn't going to be easy to play, with their lowered defenses and all, but they sure will be interesting!!!

Tony

Same reason that people played other factions when Liao Incursion was released. There was not a sudden exodus to the Liao side of the battlefield.

I hate to break it to you, but this has always been the case. Tanks have always greatly outnumbered mechs. And while no tank, one on one, is a match for a mech of equal size, when you can buy 4 tanks for the price of one mech, the numbers quickly add up. This is especially the case for dedicated mech hunters, such as the Demolisher. Battle armored infantry are also extremely dangerous to mechs in ambush situations. If a platoons of BA gets in a position where they can swarm you, that mech is going down.

Its easy to see how this tactic will best an agility mech like Arnis. How about the non-agility mechs? This tactic will be devastating. Most mechs will be forced into the charge first, ask questions later mode. Getting into JJ range of these Falcon's will be suicidal.

Are we back to agility mechs only??

Or is tank drop the best answer??

The main advantage of 'Mechs was for raids. With 12 Warriors and 12 'Mechs you needed only one fairly small Dropship. They could inflict more damage and were more mobile in a campaign than the defenders.

Unfortunately if you restrict mobility (like DA does by default) and ignore the manoeuver aspect then 'Mechs get brought down to Earth.

Sure BloddBrother X let me enlighten you :)
Straight out of the June 15th Faq page 18
If a unit Has No Chevron Printed on its Base, for purposes of game play its rank is Unique. Is does not count twords any other rank for game play purposes.

So that means ^^^ Locust is a ZB legal target
Liao Le ^^^ Hellstar is a legal ZB target
SW Unique Kodiak no chevrons but way more powewrfull than said elite locust not a legal ZB target
Liao Le ^ Griffen Not a ZB legal target.

This is why the Jade Falcon Faction Abiltiy that is ZB is so weak and not very playable it makes them chase after useless elite units while the Bounty Hunter, Arnis Drummand, and any non Liao and Sea Fox Uniques/ Le's free to tear them a new cornhole

I mean honestly which on of these units would a Clan Jade Falcon Warrior find more of a true test of his skill and courage
DF Bounty Hunter and his Marauder II or
SC Elite Tamerlane Strike Sled
There use to be a Target Higherachy for clan warriors it was based on preferd targets
1.Mech heavier than yours
2.Mech same weight
3.Mech lighter thasn yours
4.Tank
5.Light combat vehicles
6.Infantry

Not really. EI will ignore Camoflage for the same reason Homing Beacon does, the target treats hindering as clear terrain as well as the attacker.

And Homing Beacon lets you shoot through blocking terrain. Enhanced Imaging doesn't.

Only problem with the highlighted part tony is that YOU DONT GET A REAR ARCH BONUS FOR DFA!

Im sorry folks but a unique is a unique. If it has chevrons on it that says its an elite then well its a ZB Target. if it has no chevrons on it (Lets use rikkard nova cat for example.) Even though the fluff says its an elite unit if it has no chevrons no ZB or ruthlessness.

#### i ment to put "Turn two, I DFA Arnis in the rear arc.." In italics -.-

Either way we lose.:(