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I think we all can agree that the real problem with EomE is that with all the 1ofs, it takes a bit longer to complete our online order forms and copy the decklists into our online programs. I don't know about you guys but this is time I could be using to work on my timemachine.;)
Originally posted by BoyOfSteel It's like watching GI Joe. You like some people on the team, you like some on Cobra. It's cool to see Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes team up every so often. More fun to watch them fight. But it gets real old real fast when Cobra and GI Joe team up and fight week in and week out, and get along the whole time.
Doesn't click? Here, how is this. I'm waiting for a Red Skull card. I want to see Capt and his boys take on Skull and his. I really don't want to see Capt America teaming up with a Nazi, even if the two cards work well together.
There is a reason the FF and Doom team up once in a great while in the comics. And it takes something big to get everyone to work on the same page. Infinity Wars and the like. It gets real old, and real boring when everyone is always working as a team. It's like watching the movie Red Dawn, and waiting for the Wolverines to go have brunch with the Commies.
Do you go to playgrounds and make sure that kids are playing with their GI Joe's properly? If I make Scarlet and Serpentor make out, right here and right now on my desk, will that ruin GI Joe for you forever? Are you horrified by Optimus Prime smuggling GoBots in his trailer?
What if Captain America and Red Skull were teleported to Mojoworld, and had to work together in order to defeat Mojo and get back home alive? Wouldn't that be a good reason for them to be teamed up? Wouldn't that, in Captain America's viewpoint, make Red Skull the "enemy of his enemy"? Just because you don't want to see it, does that mean I shouldn't get to see it? What if it was written by Mark Waid and drawn by Alex Ross?
See, every game played is like Infinity Wars, or Infinite Crisis, or Civil War, or the Amalgam universe, or kids with towels tied around their necks running around someone's backyard. Who are you to tell me that the comic book stories in my head are "wrong"?
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This is a comic book game, based on team tactics and comic book fights (why we have Plot Twists as effect cards) It takes something speical to be able to work within a team and make it work right when facing other teams, and every so often a duel team. This mix and match crap does nothing. Takes away the thought and then dumbs everything down as people rush to netdeck it.
Did you read the results from 10K Hamilton? Three people ran Ivy League. That doesn't sound like a "rush to netdeck". This is a game. Not a comic book game. Just a game. You say it takes something special to be able to work within a team. I say it takes something special to take several seemingly unrelated parts and make them work as a team. Following your logic, the NBA, MLB, NHL, and NFL wouldn't have an All-Star Game (or Pro Bowl) every year, because it's so ludicrous that Derek Jeter would try to help Manny Ramirez score a run.
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Chess you have white and black. Checker you have red and black. You don't get to mix them up as you see. We have teams, and people that work hard to make those teams work. If you play D&D or Star Wars (RPGs) you really don't want to mix your Elf with a Troll, Goblin and Dwarf just to have the best of the best in each field. You lose out when it comes to the PCs getting along. Starwars, you dont toss Jedi in with the Sith.
In Scrabble, all the tiles are the same. In poker, you play with the same 52 cards. Hangman is played with the same 26 letters of the alphabet. Darts is always played with the bullseye in the middle. Some of the best RPG campaigns I've played in are where mismatched characters have to work together for the common goal. I guess next time I play Final Fantasy, I'll have to have an all White Mage party, because to mix them in with a violent class like Fighter or Thief would be against their character.
Seriously, if you want to build nothing but decks that make sense within the comics that have already been written, then feel free to. Build them, play them, win a lot of money with them. But don't begrudge the people who are just choosing to go their own way with their decks. Just because you have never seen Aunt May with a Flamethrower, doesn't mean that I don't get to make it happen on my own.
Originally posted by BabyArm If I make Scarlet and Serpentor make out, right here and right now on my desk, will that ruin GI Joe for you forever?
honestly, yeah, it kinda does
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Originally posted by BabyArm See, every game played is like Infinity Wars, or Infinite Crisis, or Civil War, or the Amalgam universe, or kids with towels tied around their necks running around someone's backyard. Who are you to tell me that the comic book stories in my head are "wrong"?
well said, ii will have to remember that then next time this comes up locally
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Following your logic, the NBA, MLB, NHL, and NFL wouldn't have an All-Star Game (or Pro Bowl) every year, because it's so ludicrous that Derek Jeter would try to help Manny Ramirez score a run.
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The All Star game happens once a year. When it's done, they don't burn the jersey from the team they play for all year, they go back to that team.
Did you read the results from 10K Hamilton? Three people ran Ivy League.
Well yes. It's incredibly expensive to build, and anyone good enough to play it will have realised that learning to play it would take significantly longer than the week between the PC and 10K Hamilton. The deck did win the 10K, after all, despite the fact that everyone was teching against it and only three people actually played it.
Yeah, but look at how many people managed to build X-Faces in the week between PC Atlanta and 10K Austin. I know Ivy League is a tougher deck to play, but 3 out of 96 is still pretty low for a deck that was all over the PC.
Originally posted by BabyArm And nothing is stopping you from playing mono-whatever just because someone splashed it into a deck that won a few bucks.
Exaclty!! Just because everyone else is doing it doesn't mean you need to. Rgith now everyone is using enemy so of course its gonna be in every top 8, butthat doesn't mean that you need enemy to make it to the top 8. Pick your favorite team, build a solid deck and have a blast.
Remember enemy adds consistency but one of the main things people are doing with enemy is using it for tech, if you run a mono team that you enjoy that has no played tech against it you can do fine against these toolbox decks.