How does the '...move both before and after...' bit work?

If you were next to a blocking terrain feature (as you would need to be), where would you move to?


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C = Cain, S = Spidey, xxx = blocking terrain


Would the move before bit mean that Cain could move forward a couple of spaces to be opposite Spidey and then break through and move through to be adjacent, like this...


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I hope this makes sense, please help me understand this feat. thanks

erm... the example was different before i posted it.

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For the 'move before' bit, does that mean that cain can move up to blocking terrain opposite spidey and then crash through and 'move after' to become adjacent to spidey?


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The card says " ... the character may move both before and after making the attack" . I would assume you could just use the free attack right away to break through the wall and then move right up to Spidey. I dont think you necessarily have to move beforehand.

thanks for the reply.

i was just wondering what the purpose to moving before would be.

the card states that if you are adjacent to a blocking terrain feature then you can break through it. so could you then be able to use the 'move before' to move upto the BTF, break through and then 'move after'.

by my reading of the card, you are given a 'free' attack (on a BTF) mid-way through a movement, so i think you can move upto a wall, break through, move through it.

although, you can move before and after... are these seperate movements, or are you pausing your movement and then carrying on (as stated above).

You get a free attack on adjacent blocking terrain when you give Cain a MOVE ACTION. Charge is a power action where you move up to half your move value, (Not Charge does NOT give you a MOVE ACTION). You can NOT use charge and the free attack from Unstoppable. You can however charge through hidnering now. You can break down a wall (if adjacent at the start of that movement) and then move the rest of your move value, but you may not attack again.

HSS Option 1, IS a MOVE ACTION, so someone like Black Adam with Unstoppable, would get a Free Close Combat Action against adjacent wall, then be able to move and get another free action from HSS Option 1, since there is no limits to how many free actions a chracter can be given

Cain w/Unstoppable can NOT make 2 attacks a turn, He either charges half his speed value and hits you (Ignoring Hindering) or he Breaks down an adjacent blocking terrain feature, and moves up to his full speed value, then stops.

IF and ONLY if you start adjacent to blocking terrain you get the free attack. IF you start next to it, you could grab a object, then move back to the wall, and knock it down. If you do not START next to the wall, you can NOT use this ability, so you can't "Move up to it" you have to start adjacent, then you can move away, come back and hit it, and continue to move.

i didnt say about cain being able to make 2 attacks, i know he cant. i was just wondering what the purpose to the 'move before' was, and if the movement part of Unstoppable was the figures movement used just the once.

thanks kikirachi, it all makes sense now!

That is incorrect. You may move up to a wall/Barrier and destroy it with Unstoppable. The line reads, "Once when given a move action, if the character is adjacent to a blocking terrain feature, it may make a close combat attack as a free action targeting that feature." Nowhere does it say you must start adjacent to the object. What it does say is that during your move action, you may target piece of blocking terrain if you come up adjacent to it. What it is also pointing out is that you may only target blocking terrain. Objects can not be destroyed using this ability.

normalview, thats exactly what i was trying to say (in an oddball kinda way).

so i was right... you can move upto a wall, break through, move through and become adjacent (if that is the setting).

No medic can hide when Juggernaut (or Cain) is Unstoppable!