Okay. Say my opponent's V Dr. Doom is copying the Mystics Team Ability.

I use Mind Control on him, and hit.

I have Doom use Energy Explosion on two of his adjacent allies, and he rolls high enough on the attack to hit himself with the splash damage.

Does he take Mystics damage from hurting himself?

Straight from the DC Errata and Clarifications document to you!


Mystics Team Ability
• If a Mystics team member somehow deals damage to itself with its own attack (such as an Energy Explosion), and does not choose cancel the team ability, the character would retaliate against itself.

...or "yes."

Well, yeah, if you want to boil it all down to one word.

Then I indeed made a mistake when I mind controlled my opponent's Doom and didn't make him Mystic-damage himself last game.

Oh well, thanks.

Well.... here's where it gets sticky.

When you made the attack with the mind-controlled Dr. Doom, he was on your force (which I assume had no Mystics). So, since his attack is an action, would he have to choose a TA on your force to copy, or would the copying of the Mystics TA carry all the way through the Mind Control action (which isn't over until after the attack)?

I would think Doom couldn't attack while copying a TA that is no longer friendly to him, but I can't seem to find a ruling on this.

In the game in question, we each controlled a Ghost Widow, so it didn't really matter, but....

for future reference, I'd really like to know this.

i thought that ee could only be done from range not close.

As a flyer, Doom can make ranged attacks against adjacent enemies...

--PenAgain
Doom can, after all, do nearly anything...

MC gets a little sticky because the figure changes teams, but as long as Mystics (or any TA other as the case may be) is the last TA Doom (or any WC for that matter) copied and there is at least one figure that was friendly to him with that TA at the time it was declared he was copying it remains on the board he retains that TA until he declares a different TA, or the end of the action in which the last figure on the team he copied the TA from is KOed. Doom can retain a TA he's copying even if there is no figure on his current team with that TA as long as the figure the TA was originally copied from is still in play. If a player MCs Doom and has him copy a TA that is on his team (Ultimates or Superman Ally for the sake of arguement) and that TA doesn't exist on the team he returns to after the MC resolves, he still retains that TA until the opposing figure he copied the TA from is KOed, or he copies a different TA, after which he could not copy that TA since there is no friendly figure to copy the TA from. It also works if you MC a figure with a TA and have your WCs copy its TA when you declare the free action for the MCed figure (or any other MCed figure if multiple figures were MCed in the same action). Those figures would retain the TA until the figure the TA was copied from was KOed or they chose a different TA to copy.

I hope I explained that clearly since I'm a bit groggy but it looks good to me right now....

BoT

Much obliged, BOT.

I thought you could maintain the TA you were copying even if the figure was dead. I thought you kept it until you said you were changing it.

I think i read that in the FAQ portions of some rulebook, but i'm not sure

That was the way it used to be in DC Icons. The Danger Room rule book (page 14) prevents wildcards from maintaining TAs gained from KO'd teammates:

A wild card retains the team ability it last used until it uses another team ability, or until the end of an action in which the character whose team ability the wild card is using is knocked out or otherwise removed from the game.

Little history lesson for those who care: Prior to DC Icons release last summer, you couldn't maintain copied TAs after the character was KO'd either. For some reason, the rule was changed for Icons (I can't remember anyone every saying that wildcards need a boost , so I am not sure where the change came from.) and it soon prooved to make wildcard abuse teams even more effective than they used to be. Hence the switch back to the older rules (in this particular instance, at least).

One more Mystics Question then.

If I Novablast and that blast hits several Mystic type characters, does the Pulsewave ignore that retaliation damage??

yep.



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