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He has the special power that gives him charge and flurry which I think he can use together. He has super-strength and is allowed to carry two objects. Today he was carrying two heavies. Is he allowed to use super-strength with the charge and flurry thereby giving him the ability to do ten damage in one turn? It just seems too good and I must be missing something.
Off the topic but it can up alot today....when attacking a figure using flurry or the duo attack and that figure has the Skrull TA, shape change, etc. Does the figure getting attacked get to roll before each attack or just before the first one?
here's something I've been thinking about... If you have flurry and you're only adjacent to, say, a skrull, and you declare a flurry, and the skrull roll is successful and you can't make the first attack, and you can't make that attack at all, can you chose not to do the first attack of the flurry and move on to the second, or do you have to declare another action entirely?
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here's something I've been thinking about... If you have flurry and you're only adjacent to, say, a skrull, and you declare a flurry, and the skrull roll is successful and you can't make the first attack, and you can't make that attack at all, can you chose not to do the first attack of the flurry and move on to the second, or do you have to declare another action entirely?
You'd have to have another viable target to continue with the attack. Otherwise you could declare another action (if you didn't Charge in first).
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Personally, I think you've spent way too much time thinking about this...
And you cannot target the Skrull again during that turn, even with the other Flurry attack.
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This has been an area of confusion for me for a while. I've seen it claimed that the skrull gets a skrull roll against each attack in the flurry, but if it makes the skrull roll on the first attack it cannot be targeted with the second. This strikes me as inconsistent, and unsupported by the rules. What's the general consensus?
My case:
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FLURRY Give this character a close combat action. It makes two separate close combat attacks as free actions (making two separate attack rolls) against one or two adjacent targets. Resolve the first attack before making the second. If this character loses Flurry before it makes the second attack, it can’t make the second attack.
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SKRULL When a character using the Skrulls team ability is chosen as the target of an attack, roll a d6. On a result of 6, the attack can’t be made. The attacker must choose another target or be given a different action.
Given the bold text, flurry grants 2 separate attacks and skrull is triggered when a character is chosen as the target of an attack, it seems to me that you could certainly target a skrull with teh second attack of a flurry after he made the roll on the first. The skrull was chosen a a target and made the roll, another valid target was attacked, and now the skrull is chosen as a target of the second attack, so he gets another roll. Nowhere does it say the skrull cannot be targeted by that character again that turn, it merely says he cannot be targetted by that attack, which flurry makes clear is separate from the second.
Saying that the skrull is not a valid target for the second attack seems akin to saying that if character a was unable to target a skrull b/c of the TA, then character b cannot target the skrull that turn either, as both cases are dealing with 2 separate attacks.
If this is not the case, can someone please explain why.
Last edited by MattMinus; 07/30/2008 at 10:53..
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"If Character B makes a successful Shape Change roll against Character A's attempt at targeting Character B, then Character A cannot target Character B with an attack for the rest of the turn."
(from the General Errata & Clarifications)
Please note that, since the Skrulls team ability and Shape Change have the same wording (except for the die roll result), what applies to Shape Change applies to the Skrulls team ability - and vice-versa.
"If Character B makes a successful Shape Change roll against Character A's attempt at targeting Character B, then Character A cannot target Character B with an attack for the rest of the turn."
(from the General Errata & Clarifications)
Please note that, since the Skrulls team ability and Shape Change have the same wording (except for the die roll result), what applies to Shape Change applies to the Skrulls team ability - and vice-versa.
Thanks. I should've known to check the errata before asking <facepalm>
Still think it's a stupid rule.
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Thanks. I should've known to check the errata before asking <facepalm>
Still think it's a stupid rule.
If a 'real world' explanation helps, think of it this way:
Skrull makes his roll just before Herc smashes him with the first part of Flurry; now Herc thinks the Skrull is Amodeus Cho. Since Herc thinks the Skrull is his diminutive buddy, he doesn't even consider trying to use the second attack on him, either. Action over.
The Punisher, meanwhile, doesn't know Cho from Adam and all he does know is that there was a Skrull standing there a moment ago. He goes to open fire and now the Skrull has a chance to change into Frank's wife (or something). Does the Punisher get his alien? Or does the slimy Skrull get away yet again? ... tune in next week for the next exciting episode of Amazing Skrull Theater!!!
If a 'real world' explanation helps, think of it this way:
Skrull makes his roll just before Herc smashes him with the first part of Flurry; now Herc thinks the Skrull is Amodeus Cho. Since Herc thinks the Skrull is his diminutive buddy, he doesn't even consider trying to use the second attack on him, either. Action over.
The Punisher, meanwhile, doesn't know Cho from Adam and all he does know is that there was a Skrull standing there a moment ago. He goes to open fire and now the Skrull has a chance to change into Frank's wife (or something). Does the Punisher get his alien? Or does the slimy Skrull get away yet again? ... tune in next week for the next exciting episode of Amazing Skrull Theater!!!
I have no problem with teh fact that HC rules have nothing to do with teh real world. i do have a problem with errata rulings that ignore the plain meaning of the words used in the actual rules. I don't see how you get the ruling in the E&C without making stuff up. See also Norm inventing teh concept of "instances of perplex".
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does skrull kill krew neuter the skrull roll as well as shape change or just shape change?
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When a character with Plasticity rolls to break away, subtract two from the result (minimum result of 1). When a character using Super Senses or Shape Change rolls a d6, subtract one from the result (minimum result of 1).
No mention of Skrull TA in there, so it is unaffected.