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Ok i was in a match were Ulik was up against a Destroyer with a Meteorite... i know the Meteorite does penetrating but i was curious... Isn't only the meteorite part penetrating? so the 1-3 damage it deals is penetrating not that 4 from destroyer, right? please clarify. I think only 3 max damage should go through not 7... cause Destroyer one shot Ulik and i think thats wrong...
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Ok i was in a match were Ulik was up against a Destroyer with a Meteorite... i know the Meteorite does penetrating but i was curious... Isn't only the meteorite part penetrating? so the 1-3 damage it deals is penetrating not that 4 from destroyer, right? please clarify. I think only 3 max damage should go through not 7... cause Destroyer one shot Ulik and i think thats wrong...
To quote the text from the card:
Continual. When this object is used in a successful close combat attack, roll one six-sided die and subtract 2 from the result, minimum result 1.
Add the result to the attacker’s unmodified damage value for the attack. The damage dealt can’t otherwise be modified.
The Meteorite says that damage from the attack cannot be modified any further after the roll for Meteorite is added. Damage reduction is a modifier. Therefore, the damage cannot be reduced by Ulik's power.
Last edited by beardedtoyman; 03/27/2010 at 01:52..
Reason: Added text of Meteorite
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Damage reduction is a modifier. Therefore, the damage cannot be reduced by Ulik's power.
Right! the damage from the OBJECT, not the printed damage on the fig's dial. clarify further if im wrong... if im wrong then im using meteorite all the time since its entirely penetrating!
Quote : Originally Posted by Harpua
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No, once the damage is add to the character's unmodified damage value; that damage dealt it cannot be further modified. Thus. Destroyer (let's say) on his first click, with meteorite will do 7 damage (4+3 the maximum damage you can get with meteorite) that cannot be further reduce. Thus, Ulik takes all 7 damage.
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No, once the damage is add to the character's unmodified damage value; that damage dealt it cannot be further modified. Thus. Destroyer (let's say) on his first click, with meteorite will do 7 damage (4+3 the maximum damage you can get with meteorite) that cannot be further reduce. Thus, Ulik takes all 7 damage.
does that work with imperv and invuln? if so meteorite is ridiculous!!
Quote : Originally Posted by Harpua
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does that work with imperv and invuln? if so meteorite is ridiculous!!
It does indeed - reducing damage is a modifier, and Meteorite specifically prevents the damage from being modified any further. Some venues have house-ruled it so that it only applies to the object damage, but that is incorrect.
No matter where you go, there you are.
--Buckaroo Banzai, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
It does indeed - reducing damage is a modifier, and Meteorite specifically prevents the damage from being modified any further. Some venues have house-ruled it so that it only applies to the object damage, but that is incorrect.
so from now on im using a meteorite all the time cause that is ridiculously broken! Namor cracking 7 straight thru and then follows up with another 4! thats crazy!
Quote : Originally Posted by Harpua
The Enterprise can totally slap on the Infinity Gauntlet and hop in for a Batmobile joyride.
Ok i was in a match were Ulik was up against a Destroyer with a Meteorite... i know the Meteorite does penetrating but i was curious... Isn't only the meteorite part penetrating? so the 1-3 damage it deals is penetrating not that 4 from destroyer, right? please clarify. I think only 3 max damage should go through not 7... cause Destroyer one shot Ulik and i think thats wrong...
I just want to make it clear that the damage is NOT penetrating damage.
It is damage which cannot be modified...period.
Penetrating damage can be reduced (such as with Life Model Decoy). The Meteorite damage cannot.
Penetrating damage can be increased (such as with a critical hit). The Meteorite damage cannot.
I read on an errata that it is called penetrating damage now... i will try and find it.
No, Meteorite's effect is not penetrating damage, it is its own mechanic defined by the text on the card. It is functionally similar to, but not the same as, penetrating damage.
No matter where you go, there you are.
--Buckaroo Banzai, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
No, Meteorite's effect is not penetrating damage, it is its own mechanic defined by the text on the card. It is functionally similar to, but not the same as, penetrating damage.
yea ur right, i found what i thought but it didnt saying penetrating.
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Powers, abilities, and other effects that reduce damage dealt cannot otherwise reduce the damage dealt by Meteorite.
so basically if it cant be reduced its penetrating...
Quote : Originally Posted by Harpua
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