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Now that we have Nextwave, I am really itching to field them against Foom in an EPIC re-enactment!
My Problem? 600 points of Impervious Foom vs 500 Points of Nextwave.
Solution: Feats!
So, I need suggestions on 100 points of Feats for Nextwave!
gx015 V Tabitha Smith
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6
Points: 58
Keywords: Fallen Angels, Nextwave, New Mutants, X-Factor, X-Force
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(Damage) Timebomb: Give Tabitha Smith a power action and place up to two hindering terrain markers in non-adjacent squares, that aren't blocking terrain, within range and line of fire. At the beginning of your next turn, remove them from the game and deal 2 damage to each character occupying one of those squares and 1 damage to each other character adjacent to one or more of those squares.
gx016 V Aaron Stack
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 0
Points: 106
Keywords: Avengers, Heavy Metal, Nextwave, Robot, S.H.I.E.L.D., West Coast Avengers
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(Speed) Extendable Body Parts: Aaron Stack possesses a range value equal to his click number, and 2 targets.
gx028 V Elsa Bloodstone
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 6
Points: 73
Keywords: Mystical, Nextwave, Warrior
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(Special) Monster Hunter: Elsa Bloodstone deals penetrating damage to characters over 250 points. She modifies her attack value by +2 when attacking characters that possess "Giant Symbol", "Colossal Symbol", or the Monster keyword.
gx054 R The Captain
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Keywords: Nextwave
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(Damage) I'm Probably Not Sober Enough To Pay Attention: (non-optional) When The Captain is targeted by an opponent's Outwit or Perplex, roll a d6 that can't be rerolled. On a roll of 4-6, he ignores that use of Outwit or Perplex. On a roll of 1, that use of Outwit or Perplex counters all of his powers and combat abilities or modifies all of his combat values, respectively.
VERSUS
sv225r R Fin Fang Foom: Lord Foom
Team: No Affiliation
Range: 10
Points: 600
Keywords: Martial Artist, Monster
Armor Piercing on all of them is a good choice since Foom does not take Penetrating damage- or is it ignores PB and EW? Either way Armor Piercing gets around it. That's 50 points for you right there. Monster Hunter on everyone. Vampirism and Thundering Blow on Elsa.
So, in effect.
Elsa will be AV14 against Foom and will deal penetrating damage that cannot be reduced below 1 and heals her if she's up close. I love Elsa.
All seem super solid, I hadn't considered thundering blow, that could be a huge help.
With that it seems like the strategy would basically be: having The Captain Ferry Elsa to base, have Monica carry Tabitha into range. Who cares what Aaron does, probably just run up. Second turn unleash hell+push Monica to give tabby enhancement. It doesn't much look like Foom stands a chance does it?
Foom doesn't ignore straight penetrating damage, he ignores PB/EW though.
AP on elsa is a waste, anything she does will get taken by foom unless he rolls SS which ap doesn't help. Monster hunter on elsa is a must though as she'll be swinging with a 14 for 4
So drop that AP on elsa for a protected cause if I was the foom player she would be target #1 and he's got the damage with multi attack to OHKO her.
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Alias on Cap or Elsa.. Yeah.. stacking Monster Hunter on Elsa gives her a 14 attack and 4 damage.. Though it depends on if "Penetrating Damage" is now the same as "Psychic Blast/Penetrating Damage"..
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Alias on Cap or Elsa.. Yeah.. stacking Monster Hunter on Elsa gives her a 14 attack and 4 damage.. Though it depends on if "Penetrating Damage" is now the same as "Psychic Blast/Penetrating Damage"..
It's not.
Penetrating Damage is damage that ignores all damage reducers
Psychic Blast is a ranged attack that deals penetrating damage. If you ignore psychic blast, it'll never deal the damage to you.
Similar but not the same thing. Foom can ignore psychic blast, but not penetrating damage,
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One simpler option may be to just reduce Foom's cost.
His cost per click is about 32 points, so by my estimation taking him down 3 clicks - to his first super senses click - should be about a 500 point version. This also gives him a bit better chance against Elsa, since ignoring penetrating doesn't ignore super senses.
At least that's how I planned to do the matchup once I get all the Nextwavers.
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Per the rules sheet:
Fin Fang Foom ignores the Earthbound, Exploit Weakness, Force Blast, Incapacitate, Mastermind, Mind Control, Plasticity, Poison, Psychic Blast, Shape Change, Stealth, and Support powers of opposing characters, as well as team abilities and effects that duplicate the effects of those powers.
So not so much for Alias. I can't help but think that you'd get more bang for you buck by dropping the Vampirism. Elsa ain't coming back by healing one click at a time. Maybe better off dropping it and going with Pym Particles on Monica and picking up another Protected.
I haven't played with Pym Particles before, that's a neat idea.
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aren't you only allowed to have 60pts of feats in a 600 point game?
Quite true, but this is a scenario game where that does not matter. I like your other ideal. Nick Fury's LMD could seem a lot like Dirk Anger wasting a bunch of time to kill himself. The battle's already moved on and he's sitting in a corner now. Haha.
I'd run SI Fury as Dirk, except that it'd not make story sense and he'd be a waste of 100 points (immune to outwit, cheaper perplex available...).
You may be right about vampirism. I had the idea of using rip it up on The Captain and Nanobots on Elsa, but it seems too expensive and time consuming for a chance at healing...
I'm not familiar with Pym Particles... gonna have to take a look at that one.