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Lex # 20
PART OF MY PERSONAL INVENTORY: Once per game, give Lex Luthor a power action to place a special object whose name includes "Kryptonite" from outside the game into an adjacent square.
Does the kryptonite you have count as part of your side board under the new rules?
Can you use the gauntlet on your team and use this trait? The rules say "When you include a resource on your force, you may not include any special objects on your force." PG 20 of the rule book.
#23 Batman
RAIN OF BLACK RINGS: Batman can use Pulse Wave as if he had a range value of 8. When he does, friendly characters that share a keyword with Batman reduce damage dealt to them to 0.
If there are friendly characters in Batman's blast wave and only 1 enemey his damage would be set to 1 correct?
# 12 Brainiac
I'LL SHOW YOU IMPERVIOUS: Brainiac can use Impervious. When turning the dial, if this click is revealed due to damage taken from an opponent's attack, stop turning the dial. This power cannot be countered or ignored.
Does this power ignore pulse wave, psi-blast and exploit? If there are effects that are not an attack that would deal 3 or more damage does this effect come into play?
Worldbreaker
...EVERYTHING HE SEES MAKES HIM ANGRIER: Worldbreaker can use Charge and Plasticity. When Worldbreaker is hit with a ranged combat attack, after actions resolve, you may place him in a square adjacent to the attacker.
If Cosmic Spiderman succeeds on an attack on against Worldbreaker while surrounded by blocking terrain could Worldbreaker be placed even though there is no legal square for him to get to?
Sorry for all the questions. I just wanted to put them in one thread.
Lex) No, but if it is a booster tournament or if any point 10th is Modern and Superman is Golden age then you would not be able to bring in the object.
Batman) Correct, he has still targeted multiple characters and therefore his damage would be 1.
Brainiac) His power does not ignore anything. Powers that would ignore it like Pulse Wave would not be able to ignore it. Penetrating damage would still work like normal.
Worldbreaker) If you choose to move him (since it says "may" it is optional) and the character has no adjacent squares then you would place him in the next closest spot available.
Quote : Originally Posted by Necromagus
When I came on board as RA I brought with me a mission to meet the intent of a power/ability and a firm distaste for exploits or loopholes that circumvented the intention of a rule. That's where the Rules team comes in.
So Lex can't pull in kryptonite if the gauntlet is played then.
Lets check the card:
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You may not add special objects to your force if Infinity Gauntlet is part of it.
Is bringing in Kryptonite "adding a special object to your force"?
I would think literally, yes. So I would think you could not use it. But does your opponent score the points of the Kryptonite if you get wiped (or it gets destroyed)? I wouldn't think so since it was not part of your force during construction - when you paid points.
Which then brings up a possible loophole for Kryptonite vs the Gauntlet.
Honestly, to me it feels like the wording in the game has become more confusing. When someone argues that Magog doesn't do what his power and the rule book says it forces "us" to question everything.
As of now, I'd rule you could not use Kryptonite and the Gauntlet in this example based on the line I quoted.
Visible Dials and Pushing Damage need to be optional. This is the way.
Lex) No, but if it is a booster tournament or if any point 10th is Modern and Superman is Golden age then you would not be able to bring in the object.
Agreed.
Quote : Originally Posted by MisterId
Batman) Correct, he has still targeted multiple characters and therefore his damage would be 1.
Agreed.
Quote : Originally Posted by MisterId
Brainiac) His power does not ignore anything. Powers that would ignore it like Pulse Wave would not be able to ignore it. Penetrating damage would still work like normal.
If Brainiac is hit by Penetrating damage, when the SP is revealed you WOULD stop turning the dial. You imply you wouldn't but since the dial is being turned because of damage taken, the power kicks in.
Quote : Originally Posted by MisterId
Worldbreaker) If you choose to move him (since it says "may" it is optional) and the character has no adjacent squares then you would place him in the next closest spot available.
Interesting if this is correct. It makes sense with the rules. I was thinking since you can't place him adjacent you can't do it at all - but your point has something to support it. Like I said, interesting...
Visible Dials and Pushing Damage need to be optional. This is the way.
The penetrating would go through the Imperve, but the dial still turns and would stop when the power shows.
For WB, that is one which does not get ruled the same in all cases. Thanos, for example can't use the power if that situation would occur, but the Avengers Rooftop map would place you as close as possible. My guess is that you couldn't place him.
So no kroptonite and gauntlet combo with Lex then.
I would say no for the reasons given by Tyro above.
Looking aback, though, I see something with which I disagree. That's his speculation on points.
The part about not scoring the Kryptonite if it isn't destroyed when the opposing force is wiped is obviously true since that's simply how objects work. (If you have a 300 point team with a 5 point object on it and I KO all of your figures but the object remains on the map, then I score 295 points. There are specific objects which work differently, but those have special rules spelling that out.)
Now, if you bring in the Kryponite and I do destroy it, I see no reason why I would not score the 5 points. It's really no different than if I score points for that extra Madrox you brought into the game.
PART OF MY PERSONAL INVENTORY: Once per game, give Lex Luthor a power action to place a special object whose name includes "Kryptonite" from outside the game into an adjacent square.
I'm not getting how the gauntlet would prevent this power as it is worded. The gauntlet says you cannot add any other special objects to your force, and no where in Lex's power are you adding anything to your force. You are simply putting one into play from outside the game. At no point is it actually added to your force and you don't pay the points cost. It is simply placed on the battlefield.
If Brainiac is hit by Penetrating damage, when the SP is revealed you WOULD stop turning the dial. You imply you wouldn't but since the dial is being turned because of damage taken, the power kicks in.
Interesting if this is correct. It makes sense with the rules. I was thinking since you can't place him adjacent you can't do it at all - but your point has something to support it. Like I said, interesting...
Which is exactly how penetrating damage works normally, cases of Live! have shown this.
Quote : Originally Posted by Harpua
On one to three, I agree with Tyro.
The penetrating would go through the Imperve, but the dial still turns and would stop when the power shows.
For WB, that is one which does not get ruled the same in all cases. Thanos, for example can't use the power if that situation would occur, but the Avengers Rooftop map would place you as close as possible. My guess is that you couldn't place him.
Ah... I did not see that Thanos's Final Word ruling was changed, that's what I was basing my rule on.
Quote : Originally Posted by Necromagus
When I came on board as RA I brought with me a mission to meet the intent of a power/ability and a firm distaste for exploits or loopholes that circumvented the intention of a rule. That's where the Rules team comes in.