Hey guys, a couple of quick questions. I finally got a KC Green Lantern and am trying to figure out how to get around his trait:

WE WILL MAKE THINGS RIGHT AGAIN: Green Lantern's combat values can only be modified by powers or abilities from characters with "Kingdom Come team ability symbol". Green Lantern's powers and abilities can only be countered by powers or abilities from characters with "Kingdom Come team ability symbol".

Can a power given by an entity (esd/perplex) increase his values?

Can a relic increase his values (sloth- this character has +1 defense) or another sin that grants esd/cr? Thanks!

Nothing but a character that has the kc team symbol printed on its dial is the long and short of it. So no entities don't work, relics, resources, ata, equipment, hindering terrain, pym particles, none of that and I'm sure more.

No. Nothing can grant them increases, sans using Green Lantern on his isolated 30 point dial to perplex.

Keep in mind that some game effects don't work either. Hindering terrain does NOT give them +1 to defense. Carrying DOES give them -2 to movement. Items in attacks DO increase their damage (KC Superman has Super Strength).

ES/D and Combat Reflexes don't work because Wizkids has stated that the source of the increase isn't from the KC figure, but from the power, which is granted from a different piece. For this same reason, relics/equipment won't work either as they aren't KC figures.

Hmmmm. I was hoping since they were given the power it would count as them doing it. Drat. Although this is far more balanced so I guess that's okay.

Wait, a KC character's OWN ES/D and CR don't work? That's... REALLY weird. Their own Super Strength lets them modify damage, but the ES/D and CR won't let them increase their defenses?

So Spectre and Hawkman's back-end defenses may as well be blank? I really hope I've misinterpreted this, and you mean that a KC character being GIVEN ES/D or CR won't allow them to increase DV.

What I meant was that an entity can grant them these powers, but they won't work. If they have the power on their dial, they can 100% use that power. They just can't gain benefits to their combat values from other characters or equipment (entities, etc.)

I thought it was ruled that they did get the +1 from hindering because it was a innate map effect, not character based?

No non-KC source can increase a KC character's combat abilities

A character can increase its own values from use of their own (by this I mean on their dial) powers, like ESD on dial, CR on dial, CCE/RCE, etc. This also means that objects wielded through Super Strength will modify damage value and the modifier from carrying (-2 speed) still goes because that is from the ability printed on the dial top itself as would tiny symbol's bonus to range IF the KC actually possessed it by themself (none so far, but reserving this space)

A character with the KC team symbol and Perplex can perplex

Any other source? Nope

Note the cannot be modified only applies to combat values. If something modifies damage dealt, you are good to go

Doesn't KC Red Robin (legacy) and KC alloy (DC Giants) have perplex for use in golden age matches?

If something would boost them, pick them up and look at their dial/base. If the effect isn't on there, it's a no-go

Dont forget that KC Harlequin Prime has perplex and can therefore increase/decrease other KC pieces in modern age. She also has the future keyword to match most of the other KC pieces. Thats why shes my KC Bats' best friend!! I get perplex with a shared keyword to boot!!

Without knowing their dials off the top of my head, I'll have to go with "maybe" as an answer


But, yes, if a KC character has Perplex, then it could use that Perplex normally on these chases.

No and yes, respectively

(RR has outwit, which will prove useful against the KC chases. Alloy's Perplex is pretty late dial though)