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I Have Responsibilities You Cannot Even Dream Of: At the beginning of your turn, you ma place a water terrain marker in any square of clear terrain within 8 squares. Give King Aquaman a free action and choose an opposing character that occupies water terrain within 8 squares. Place that character into an adjacent square.
Are you placing the character adjacent to their current square, adjacent to the water terrain marker, or adjacent to aquaman?
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What about calling them "Papillomas?"
I Have Responsibilities You Cannot Even Dream Of: At the beginning of your turn, you ma place a water terrain marker in any square of clear terrain within 8 squares. Give King Aquaman a free action and choose an opposing character that occupies water terrain within 8 squares. Place that character into an adjacent square.
Are you placing the character adjacent to their current square, adjacent to the water terrain marker, or adjacent to aquaman?
It reads to me as you place the character in a square adjacent to King Aquaman.
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It reads to me as you place the character in a square adjacent to King Aquaman.
Definitely does not read that way since it never says "adjacent to King Aquaman."
Also, from Wizkids themselves in the design article:
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Additionally, he can take a free action to place an opponent that is in water terrain within 8 squares into an adjacent square. As he slowly floods the map, he can start nudging opposing characters out of position, a square at a time.
I agree with the others, it is a square adjacent to the square the chosen character occupies. The press room article also helps clarify it :
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Definitely does not read that way since it never says "adjacent to King Aquaman."
Also, from Wizkids themselves in the design article:
It doesn't have to. Whenever you read a power, it's always worded as if it's referring to itself. It doesn't have to say adjacent to King Aquaman because he's the one using the power so it's adjacent to himself.
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UNSEEN MANIPULATOR: Mephisto can use Sidestep and Stealth. Give Mephisto a power action. Choose an opposing character within range and line of fire and place that character into a square that is adjacent to their current square. If no opposing character is within 4 squares, this is a free action instead.
If it was supposed to be in a square adjacent to the one they were in, it would be worded like Mephisto's power.
I also don't follow the articles. They've been wrong before on plenty of rules. If it's not on the WIN, then it's not an actual ruling.
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The official previews have been wrong on how powers work before, so that means nothing.
This power is poorly worded and not like any other wording that I can think of. Characters like Mephesto and Doop specifically say the figure goes into a square adjacent to the one they occupy. Chase Thanos that can move the two highest point characters specifically says to place them adjacent to Thanos. So this will just have to come down to a WK ruling.
I read it as they get placed adjacent to Aquaman because if it doesn't give a specific target/instruction it always refers to the character it first mentions (in this case Aquaman).
I read it as they get placed adjacent to Aquaman because if it doesn't give a specific target/instruction it always refers to the character it first mentions (in this case Aquaman).
That is also my understanding of the rule as written. King Aquaman is the focus of the power, so unless otherwise specified it would be adjacent to him.
Most likely this will get errata to specify it's adjacent to the chosen characters current square as despite poor wording I would guess that is the intention.
Am I the only one here who can see a good case for it being either way. And many good supporting arguments have been given each way.
The only thing I would dare to add is I'm of the opinion that it probably will mean adjacent to that square the water was placed in. And I do base this on the Wizkids article.
It is not meaningless. It may be 100 percent wrong. But it is the only indication we have until we get an official answer.
I've been wrong before. That doesn't make me meaningless. (except here...at home...at work....in the middle of a forest with no one around.....)...
1. Beginning of turn, place a water terrain marker.
2. Give Aquaman a Free Action
. . a. Choose an opposing figure that occupies any water terrain that is 8 or less squares from Aquaman.
3. Place the chosen figure into an adjacent square from the one he / she occupied when Aquaman chose him/her.
Hope that helps.
Aquaman places a square of Water terrain in the same square another character occupies, Aquaman takes a free action to place the character that occupies the square of water terrain adjacent to the square of water terrain it once occupied.
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It doesn't because I'm losing an argument! The wording is vague.
I UNDERSTOOD IT how in the hell is that vague it's easier to follow than the directions for TOILET PAPER
Aquaman places a square of Water terrain in the same square another character occupies, Aquaman takes a free action to place the character that occupies the square of water terrain adjacent to the square of water terrain it once occupied.
I UNDERSTOOD IT how in the hell is that vague it's easier to follow than the directions for TOILET PAPER
EDIT:nevermind. Pretty sure a character can occupy clear terrain and it is still clear terrain in terms of terrain type.
Is he able to place the marker in an occupied square? His power references clear squares. A clear terrain square by definition is "open".
Aquaman places a square of Water terrain in the same square another character occupies, Aquaman takes a free action to place the character that occupies the square of water terrain adjacent to the square of water terrain it once occupied.
I UNDERSTOOD IT how in the hell is that vague it's easier to follow than the directions for TOILET PAPER
This is a poor explanation, even if that is the intended effect. Nothing says he has to place the water terrain marker in the "same square another character occupies."
The reason it is vague is because, as Predatorsmurf points out, the well-established convention in this game is that a modifier without an explicit referent refers by default to the character on whose card the modifier appears. Therefore "adjacent" can absolutely refer to Aquaman.
I hope this is not how it works, because it will be a frustrating-if-not-busted power if that's the case, but it is absolutely an interpretation supported by the text as written.