What would Takion's range be when using Hypersonic and Pulse Wave...?

4...?
2...?



slosh051 R Takion
Team: Quintessence
Range: 7
Points: 175
Keywords: Cosmic, New Gods

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(Special) Conduit of the Source: Once per game, give Takion a free action and choose: Perplex or Probability Control. Opposing characters can't target Takion with the chosen power this game.

(Speed) Faster Than Thought: Takion can use Hypersonic Speed and Pulse Wave. When he uses Hypersonic Speed he can use Pulse Wave instead of a ranged combat attack.

(Damage) Manipulating Energy: Takion can use Probability Control. When Takion is hit with a ranged combat attack, he may immediately place a blocking terrain marker in an adjacent square; that marker remains on the map until destroyed or your next turn, even if this power is lost.

Hypersonic replaces the range with half its value, so the range is now 4.

Then, pulse wave halves the ranged attack's range, so now it's 2.

So yep, range would be 2.

That is what I was told...

...but I just want to triple check.

Unless he uses The Sniper Rifle to gain a 10 range then half would be five and half of that would be three rounded up

I wonder what the interaction with Outsiders would be for Takion?
Would he still keep the 8? Would it be 2?

Outsiders prevents modifiers, not replacement values. Otherwise outsiders would be crazy good for all your running shot and charge needs.

As far as when Outsiders TA is not being used, don't forget that modifiers go after replacement values. So perplex his range up 2 and he will have a 4 range PW. Pretty big PW for a guy using HSS!

Not to go off topic but I so wish they would have given that Speed Power to KC Shazam.

Why?
He doesn't do anything remotely like that.
He fights superman, and sets off a nuke with his lightning.
when he uses his lighting hes in a locked position, not engaging in hit and run tactics.

Thanks, I have only played a handful of outsiders matches in my 16 years in the game. I totally forgot about this.

Well now that they made Outsiders weaker, you probably won't see a whole lot more.

"Weaker" is quite relative for this... making it more in tune with OW/PC and having their range with a minimum 6 range is only shaving off a little range with quite a few of them. It only makes a big dent if you aren't playing an Outsiders team. Granted, they were much more effective when resources were new as they could shut diem had the benefits of half of them.

Here - use this guy on his pulse wave clicks.

He was constantly speeding around calling the lightning and then dodging the lightning while it hit Superman. He had to constantly move, call the lightning, and move again to avoid reverting back to Billy Batson. The whole fight outside of the first page of issue 4 was him constantly in motion until Supes was finally able to grab a hold of him and let the lightning revert him back to Billy Batson. The only offensive attacks Shazam did was spamming his lightning.

The most famous sequence of him using the lightning on Supes while standing still was in Justice League Unlimited when he held Supes above him and called the lightning. But that ain’t KC Shazam.

edit never mind

Quick question, guys (apologies if this has been asked a million times before):

Do I modify range before or after halving when using Pulse Wave?

Let's say I have a range of 10 and I have a +3 modifier to range. Is it:

a) 10+3, halve to become 7 (rounded up... always round up)?

or...

b) 10, halved to become 5, +3 to become 8?

As far as I understand it it's 'a' but I'm happy to be convinced otherwise.

Thanks in advance.