Do u think this card deserved to be banned? Name some strageties that you can use with this card.

prolly the only you will need

Chaos Emperor Dragon + Witch= Game. get yata with witch, and attack.

but if you want to be less evil to your opponent you can do this one.

Chaos Emperor Dragon + Witch + RoD =Pretty good winning position.

Search for The Ban Nightmare, attack directly with 3000, so thtas 3000(Ban nightmare)+3000(Ring on CED) + 300x(X=number of cards destroyed) = pretty much game.

Okay, you know why this card was banned?

All but one mass destruction card (That is used often) was banned EXCEPT torrential tribute, which was limited. This card included. This card has two great effects... It DESTROYS EVERYTHING IN THE CURRENT GAME. And along with that, EVERY card destroyed burns the opponent for 300 damage. That is ALOT!

This card was banned because of the LACK of strategy needed to win a game with it. It needs ONE other card to be used in a combo with it to win instantly. (Which is Witch of the Back Forest)

Now if you're using Traditional Format decks, use the heck out of him, I don't care. I don't play Tratitional, but this card used against you just once will make you want to play advanced format, just becuase he is so cheap, un-expected (or expected in some cases since I saw so much of him) so my tip for Chaos Emperor ragon, Envoy of the End is to put him in your binder, and play some advanced, I guarantee you wil lhave more fun.

which is more broken? yata-garasu or chaos emperor dragon?

Lets say u have 2 options. You opponent has has 3 useless cards in his hand and a monster in defence and 2 magic cards set to bluff. You have dark hole, yata and c.e.d in ur hand. You also have 3 cards face down. Which effect would u prefer to activate? If u could choose which way to win, which would be more broken???
1. Use dark hole and yata-lock him
2. Remove 1 light and 1 dark to summon C.E.D and blow him up to win.

who here thinks that chaos emperor dragon is the most broken card in yugioh and should never have been made? this thing makes black luster soldier:eotb look like nothing! Im gonna post an article here later about why its cheap and banned.

The Ban List:

1. Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End

Why was it banned? Chaos Emperor Dragon is the most destructive card in the game. It’s also certainly the most powerful, and let me explain.

Chaos Emperor Dragon resets the field, making cards that depend on a stable hand of 3-4 cards, such as a Burner (which needs a collection of cards to lock down the opponent) or A Legendary Ocean (which needs the field spell card Umi to power up its own monsters) archetypes helpless when top-decking (each player has 0 cards in hand and must depend on draws). Simply put, beatdown decks receive a huge advantage when both players are top-decking; Chaos Emperor Dragon single-handedly (along with Delinquent Duo) destroyed deck-types that needed to maintain a hand supply.

Remember folks, when discussing the merits of cards, remember why they are “overpowered” or “broken”; many will wonder why Black Luster Soldier was allowed to remain, arguing that it’s superior to the Emperor Dragon.

Those folks are completely wrong. Black Luster Soldier does not single-handedly create a chance for 75% deck-types to instantly fail. While BLS is a powerful form of field advantage, Chaos Emperor Dragon resets hand/life-point advantage, and provides a disgusting advantage to the person who summons it.

It’s also on the short list of cards in the game that provide (nearly) non-negatable end-game damage. Chaos Emperor Dragon and Ring of Destruction, along with the underplayed Cannon Soldier, are some of the only tournament-viable cards that can outright kill your opponent without fear of counter. Such power had to be restricted.

Deck-types that benefit from its loss: Every deck except Chaos gains something from CED’s ban. Exodia, Burner, A Legendary Ocean, and other decks can thrive.

Removal Rating (Should it have been banned by Konami?): 10/10. This card was broken beyond belief. Its ban will let other archetypes shine.
-JEALOVE

Here's another article from JEALOVE:
A BAD System Score of the Week
IOC Secret Rare: Chaos Emperor Dragon
Featured In: Chaos Control

Advantage F/H: Any time one card will guarantee abject field advantage, I.E Chaos Emperor Dragon, it's a guaranteed 10/10. Throw in the fact you can pay 1000 life points to even out the hand advantage score and go up in life points, and you've got probably the most advantageous card in the game. 10/10.

Best Draw for the Situation: The only situation where you don't want him is maybe in the opening hand and if you don't have lights/darks in the grave, which brings him down two points. This sort of restriction would ordinarily give him a 8/10. However, often he is the ONLY card that would save you. If you're in a hopeless situation, nothing will help you more than this card. NOTHING. Also, If you're in a winning situation, having a 3000 attack special summon that will end the game with the burn is one of the best draws you can take. The sheer power of him brings that 8/10 up to a solid 9.75/10.

Attributes/Effect: He's a Dark. His stats are 3000/2500. His effect is unmatched by any other card in the game. No other card in the game can guarantee 2000+ damage that's non-negatable, and no other card in the game can completely reset hand/field advantage. Perfect monster. 10/10.

Dependability: His effect is guaranteed to go off because of priority. He's also guaranteed not to be killed by an opponent's monster. The only things that will stop his burn are Solemn Judgment and Horn of Heaven. All else falls to him. Of course, the fact that you need a light and a dark, coupled with the niggling fact you need 1000 lp to use his effect, is a bit of a downside. Also, after the burn effect(if they survive), bad luck/topdeck might let your opponent take the advantage, which isn't CED's fault. 9.75/10.

A BAD Score: 39.5/40= 98.75/100

The Bottom Line: Overpowered, broken, etc.

I really wish they'd bring back CED actually. I'd much much much rather fight him now that witch is gone, and there's more ways to counter him than there is BLS. Atleast you can protect yoruself with a spirit repear against that thing, BLS just cuts right through it with that damn remove effect.

Maybe it's that both my deck types rape CEDs effect...but...I still liked fighting it better. Strike ninja + despair from the dark eat him alive.

Actually...in a lot of ways Chaos Soldier IS superior to Chaos Emperor Dragon as Chaos Emperor Dragon is equally superior to Chaos Soldier in ways. The only reason(s) Chaos Emperor Dragon was so "superior" was nuking the field and the hands with its LP damage and combining it with Yata made it the last straw. Chaos Emperor Dragon's effect of nuking the WHOLE field including itself and BOTH players hands hardly makes it better than Soldier. They BOTH have downsides.

Chaos Emperor Dragon = LP payment, sends YOUR field and hand to the graveyard as well and, usually, will not do THAT much damage. Usually around like 2400+ damage which can easily be done with Inferno Fire Blast.

Chaos Soldier = either can't attack to remove a mon or risk attacking to attack again, but at least you keep your field and hand instead of having to lose it all.


Chaos Emperor Dragon requires timing and more strategy to use corrently. Most duelists I've seen simply summon it and nuke it immediately, then claim the other person cheated when they lose after the next couple draws when it was their own fault by limiting their options completely by using Chaos Emperor Dragon's effect in the first place, allowing the person to catch up. So Chaos Emperor Dragon DOES NOT necessarily provide a "disgusting advantage" for the person who uses it. The opponent's deck could very well handle the slight midhap of Chaos Emperor Dragon's effect.

Chaos Soldier fits into Warrior decks quite well like Chaos Emperor Dragon fits into Dragon decks. Not being able to attack gives the opponent the chance to do something about it during their turn or they must risk attacking and put Soldier at risk of the opponent's traps or monster effects. Depending on the opponent's field, Chaos Soldier has a 6000 LP damage potential in 1 Battle Phase which can easily end the duel while Chaos Emperor Dragon provides more delay for the opponent to regain his footing during the next couple turns.


Both of these cards are very powerful and are meant to be two of the most powerful monsters in the game. Taking two of the most powerful attributes and combining them into one for a devastating force. I really don't find either monsters to be superior to the other. I find them equal to one another in every aspect. And it's not like the effects of either one are hard to get around either with the newer cards. Heck, even some older cards can take care of them as well. I honestly don't see a problem with them being made, nor do I see any NEED to have them in decks. What I DO have a problem with is some duelists who ended up getting creamed by them complaining that there's "..hardly any cards that can stop them..." are just pitiful because they never bother looking into other cards that people never seem to use that much until just fairly recently (ex. Solemn Judgment, Horn of Heaven, Royal Oppression, Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer, Jowgen the Spiritualist, an active Skill Drain, etc).

I'm pretty surprised that some cards never saw as much use before as they did now JUST because of the ban list and newer cards. I, myself, have been using Solemn Judgment and Horn of Heaven since they were available, but everyone always dumped them because "Tributing a monster is too much" (Horn of Heaven) and "Paying half your LP to negate an effect is WAY too much" (Solemn Judgment).

I just wish some people wouldn't make such a HUGE fuss over which one is better or how they're so unfair and how they should never have been made. EVERY card has a weakness of some sort and if you're too lazy to find it and just complain about it being unfair, then you should just quit now instead of making yourself look like a whining, sore loser everytime you complain about getting beat by it. Even some of the SIMPLEST cards can stop the most powerful one's. Sometimes they may take some working together to do, but if you're a real duelist, you'll find ways to get them to work like how a simple Dark Designator with a D. D. Designator can screw up some decks too, especially if they revolve around only a few cards. Remove Chaos Emperor Dragon or Chaos Soldier before they can do anything with them or if they're using the cheap Chaos Emperor Dragon + Witch of the Black Forest/Sangan + Yata-Garasu combo, get rid of the Yata-Garasu before they can do anything with it. You just have to THINK and LOOK for the solutions and not wait for people to just hand them off to you in a forum.

even the experts say that c.e.d is superior to black luster soldier and thats why it was banned. also c.e.d has priority while black luster doesn't. c.e.d can easily deal 6000damage+ because it can attack first. if u don't want to, you can just use the effect, which is usualyy 2400+. black luster is not as good as you have to attack to deal damage, and risk triggering a trap. c.e.d provides non-negatable damage no matter what(except certain cards).

Yata-Garasu, when used right is the cheapest card ever. It can provide an instant win, provided u have got ur opponent stuck in a lock. I think Yata-Garasu is better than C.E.D becuz of that reason. What do u think?

The player DOES have priority to activate Soldier's removal effect. CED's damage CAN be negated with Barrel Behind the Door and Pikeru's Circle of Enchantment, Trap of Board Eraser, Curse of Pain (japanese) and Hallowed Life Barrier and such so you can't really say it's "non negatable."

Chaos Emperor Dragon wasn't banned because it was "superior" to Soldier. It's because of the fact that it could use the instant win of Yata-Garasu without much problem. All it required was a Witch of the Black Forest or Sangan to be on the field and then you basically won the moment you activated Chaos Emperor Dragon's effect unless it gets negated somehow.

Chaos ED is the most broken card in the game. In fact, if someone were to argue that it's the only broken card in the game, I'm not sure I could really disagree with them.

Your opponent has 4 cards, and you have 1? If that one's CED, you can level the field instantly.

Your opponent has 2000 LP left? You can often do that much by blowing up CED.

Your opponent is clear fielded? Summon CED, attack for 3000 (more if you summon another monster), then blow up for the win.

Combo it with Witch/Sangan. You don't even need to search for Yata to have a good chance of winning just because you have a monster to summon, and they have NOTHING.

Other cards are a lot more stoppable. Yata can have a lot of trouble just getting around a Sinister Serpent that's in their graveyard. It also can't get through ANY real defenses. You have to get rid of all defenses for Yata to get his effect.

Raigeki? Your opponent can just conserve their monsters, which they should still do even with Raigeki banned. Conserving resources won't save you against CED; he'll kill all your resources.

BLS is prone to all the standard monster removal, and can be stolen via Snatch Steal or Creature Swap. CED is only prone to Monster Reborn and Autonomous Action Unit, but Monster Reborn is banned, and AAU is almost never used. Even if Reborn were unbanned, that's only 1 card, and it can get almost every monster, not just CED.



Not hardly. If that was the only reason to ban CED, they wouldn't need to, because not only is Yata banned, but Witch and Sangan are also banned.