:: Gets lighter :::, :: Picks up old skull servant card :::..... :: Lights servant on fire, throws on Highly unoriginal deck::: ....:: Watches deck burn...feels satisfied:::

I want to make this clear right here and now... if your deck contains any combination of the following cards...

1-Black luster soldier - Envoy of the beginning
1-Jinzo
1-Breaker the magical warrior
1-D.D. warrior lady
1-Tribe infecting virus
1-Sinister serpent
1-Pot of greed
1-Graceful charity
1-Mirror force
1-Ring of destruction
1-Call of the haunted
1-Snatch steal
1-Lightning vortex

YOU ARE 100% unoriginal.... there is no originality to this deck, no matter how many brain controls, royal decrees, big sheild gardnas, enemy contollers, or Tsukuyomi's... any one puts in their deck... a deck that revolves around the above cards brings this game down, these cards were not meant to be in the same deck,.... every deck in yugioh was meant to be original... when people play the same cards over and over, we have a repeat of the old days when people compalined about yata, jinzo, injection, united we stand, raigeki... i hate compalining i really do, and i hope dark beginnings 2 is the remedy to this... but when people dont even try to make their deck better and use soldier because he is the strongest monster in the game (yes i said strongest, a 5000atk monster can still be removed from game) theyre no better than any one else, i applaud people who use toons with no toon table of contents, or deck out decks with no needle worms in sight, these are the decks that keep this game going... im tired of ranting, and u all know this is the truth... if this game has any chance of survival... take apart decks like this... this game has some 15 odd sets out, if we only use 40 cards out of the 1500 cards available...this isnt yugioh this is soldier-oh... (corny i know, get used to it) ..but the truth

Torrental:
1st off no where did i claim this deck to be original
2nd do not post on my thread if you have nothing of value to add
3rd do not speak down to me as if I was some newbie, I have been on this forum for over two years, since i closed my original realms name
4th originality is great, if you have a deck out deck without needle worms, great, more power to you, but go rant elsewhere

responces

1. You did not claim originality, but shoved a sword down its throat
2. Posting on YOUR thread i am not, i AM however posting on a thread on Yugiohrealms, and IMO that was of value...

3.* I however did not speak down to you, i gave my opinion to community as a whole, my self included, funny how youve been on this forum for two years, when i clearly see March 2005 near your name

4. and you seem mad at the fact that i ranted on this thread, how childish of you... well what can you expect with march 2005, good day


Administrators if i violated rules, forgive me

Torrentialrx
-The Water duelist-

torrental:
Did you not read that i closed my original name when i quit the game for some time, but I have been a member of this realms community since March '03, fvjr3 was my original, search for it.
So now kindly refrain from posting on this thread unless your going to remain on topic

Bringing down the game!?!?! Last time i checked the game was at its' most popular yet. It is people who complain like you who bring down this game. You threaten to quit and say everyone else will but i have yet too see that happen. I maybe running soldier now but if you kindly look at the other 40 decks i have made you can see that there isn't a one in sight so you can't use it against me. Finally there are deck out decks without needle worm it is called the cyber jar OTK. The people that are not using toon table either don't have it or try to be origional when in fact it still isn't because it will have a 1/4 to 1/2 of the cards on your little list.

Anyway onto the deck.

This is rather..........different. but as torrential said "it's an unoriginal pile of garbage, therefore the user and the deck itself must instantly suck." Sorry just had to say that. Can't really see much else that needs fixing. Like the old saying goes don't fix it if it ain't broken.

And now i find such hypocrocy.

http://www.yugiohrealms.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=416296

One of torrnetialx's deck. Let me see i counted a total of 7 out of 13 of the cards he listed himself in that deck.

Sorry but good day.

Torrential, you really need to shut the hell up. Who gives a crap about originality? Originality is great but it never survives and its not like your the first person on earth to think of it. You really need to get a freaking life instead of going on and on about something nobody cares about. People run those 15 cards because they are really good. Whats even sadder is that not everyone runs vortex and jinzo...

Nobody is gunna run crap when they know they can run cards that help them win games. Really, its people like you who ruin this site. Do you even read the crap you post?

"omg needle worm is unoriginal WHAH WHAH none of you play those crap hero shadow scouts that only give your opponent more speed and discard less cards!!!"

"toon table of contents is NOT original!!! omg, don't run speed in your toon decks, try to draw toon world because its fun!!"

Those are just exactly what your saying in your post. So really, just go away.

But about this actual deck, its ghetto lol. Looks very expensive...but it seems like its really good. Alot of speed which is cool. The light/dark ratio looks a little off balance though. You should run a blade knight instead of a dda or big shield but really, i think your deck is just good enough as it is. Maybe drop bottomless for either Dust Tornado or Sakretsu but thats all just choice.

Really tech, don't listen to retards like torrential. Your better off drinking and building your deck then listing to that idiot XD

I a, going to have to agree with tonrrential....bls is lyk the god of the game.....there is no oringinality when u play the same cards in the same deck everyone else plays...ur basiclly playing urslef....lyk....us harpies feather duster instead of heavy storm..when some ppl play heavy storm than feather duster I am totally on torrential on it.....there is no originality........and he is right.....every deck is usally a copy of somebodys else deck.....its the truth!!!




Oh and ..........Satoshi Mutou u dont have to say fawl language on here allright....u could of said just shut up not shut the hell up !!!!!

ok not to shoot a dead horse in the face but who really cares if this deck is original or not. it is just stupid when duelist come to this comunity for help on the deck or comments and they get bashed about how unoriginal the deck is. originality is only in the eye of the beholder.

next torrential you are an idiot. the list of cards that you pointed out give speed and support to almost any deck. it is why they are used. not everyone is as self absorbed as you are. they dont forget that this is a game played to win. and also who are you to insult anyone for using cards that they have at their disposal.

grow up and stop whinning about your deck losing to a deck like this. seriously your "original" deck lost for other reasons. It wasnt BLS or any of the other cards (which you have the "OPTION" of using as well) that you mentioned. it doesnt make you a better person for not using them just not an intelligent one for not using all of your options

anyways off of that subject and actually on to your deck.

ok your traps are solid. they fit the royal decree
your magic cards look solid as well. nice amount of removal overall solid support for the deck
your monsters are were I see some problems. tsukuyomi is a great Tech card there is no disputing that. but she is only that. I dont know if she fits in this deck. but really it is up to you.

next morphing jar is going to hurt you. it has its disruption ability but sometimes that is a good thing for your opponent.

ok maybe replace them with apprentice magician and exiled force/second apprentice mage

other than that nice job on the anti meta

No wonder I felt like quitting YGO! The guy just suggests you should explore other options NOT INVOLVING BLS and look how many people jump on his back. Now I am being offensive. Everyone who hit on Torrential is an uncreative loser, as far as im concerned. You guys dont do anything to bring the game up. Just ride on other people's ideas. Just an excellent reflection of your lives, I bet. How can you be trendsetters and pioneers if you are always looking for paths already proven? Make yours. If it fails, so what? Its one week at a local tourney ($6). Whopee. I bet you'll get more kudos losing with an original than winning with BLS anyway. I think Torrential's idea is "BLS DECKS WORK! WE KNOW IT. STOP POSTING IT". So for all our sakes, please ... your BLS deck would get a 9/10 either way since we know BLS pwns, but can we keep this forum strictly to unproven decks that need work to make them shine?

Not to be a loser ... but remember when Yugi lost to Rebecca Hawkins? He could have won that match easily, but the idea of the game is not winning. Its having fun all the way. And learning. So running a BLS deck increases your skill in what way? Honestly ... have you ever thought that BLS might be banned one day, and then you would be forced to look for an original deck, like that mass ban last time around. What happens then?

EXPLORE OTHER OPTIONS, BLS IS NOT THE ONLY WAY!

STOP HITTING ON TORRENTIAL

TRY A CREATIVE DECK


*phew*
I think thats a sufficient enough summary.

Though I agree with what torrential said, I think one should actaully post comments about the deck, or not post at all. That being said, I think you should abuse the goats, magicians and serpent in this deck and add Metamorphsis for TER. Also, you have a few Warriors in here so some warrior support might help. Other than that the deck looks too good to fix. Normally I wouldn't have said anything, but since almost everyone who's posted isn't helping, I thought I'd give it a shot. Hope I helped.

Ahem....ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you, for your digust and horror, in this freak show...the immature originality crusader!! Yes, gaze upon him, and all of his obnoxious moot points that like all the other crusaders, they shout with a hellish chorus of BURN BLS!! BURN PoG!!! BURN COOKIES!! BURN GOOD CARDS THAT EVERYONE USES BECAUSE THEY ARE GOOD!!!!! Yes... this is the creed of the flaming originality crusader... leer at him for his immaturity, and laugh at how little sense it makes that he thinks that duelists who want to succeed in competitive Yu-Gi-Oh events should NOT use cards that have been proven to be powerful, efficient, and game changing. Make your brain shrink and shrivel into some little cauliflowerish thing in attempts to undertsand why this sap should attempt to defend that which does not exist. Ladies and Gentleman, behind this sad character, there is a moral: If you like "originality", good for you, but don't try to force your beliefs on others. If you do, you look like an idiot for all to see.

And now, ladies and gentlemen, for the second part of this freak show, I give you, the more moderate originality Crusader...however, THIS one has the unqiue feature of not being able to spell! It is almost impossible to understand what this strange being is attempting to communicate because of poor spelling. I don't even understand his allusion to Harpie's Feather Duster and Heavy Storm, and we'll just move on to the next act!

Now, my good audience, gaze upon this shouting spectatle, this roaring conflagrant crusader of originality! Look at him, in his attempt to make a profound statement with an exclamation of the desire to quit the game! Well, my friend, from myself, and the audience, here's a piece of advice, straight from me to you: If you feel like quitting; QUIT, but it's not our problem, so we don't need to hear about it! This sad little being continues his rant about the great Black Luster Soldier, while seemingly forgetting about all of the other cards that the crusaders have sworn to hate. Black Luster Soldier is not every cookie cutter card. He may be the cheapest card in the game (which he is), but give the guy a break...but NO...the flaming crusader of originality focuses his fire on the Black Luster Soldier, who is not yet banned. Another piece of adivce from me to you: No matter how you attempt to flame this card, you have NO power over it's continued play in the game. That is the decision Upperdeck Entertainment. Look! Look! Now this fiendish fellow attempts to sucker-punch the people who do not support his ideals...hey... from the sounds of it, this guy seems to be obnoxious enoguh tyo be a politician! THen after that, he attempts to make a bet, that he will already of lost. From personal experience, I got not props for using an 'original' deck. Actually, I was told that the deck sucked because but it didn't have any of the basic cards that are staple to decks. Pay up my friend! Then, in his penultimate attempt to make a point, he asked that we please clear the deck depot, because, as I'm sure he considered, before the cards get to America they are printed in Japan are they not? And in Japan I'm sure ideas are actually created, are they not? In Japan, maybe...just maybe...they think up deck types!!! What an idea! That maybe nothing in American Yu-Gi-Oh is original! (not a sarcastic remark) I would believe it. It has to go through the Japanese meta first, for a few months at least. If maybe an original idea comes over to the states, it will quickly be copied. There is not an original deck type in this forum, so if you want to keep only the unproven deck types in the forum, the forum will basically be empty. Now, for his final act, the crusader brings up possibly the worst source for Yu-Gi-Oh information in the world. Maybe even a toddler would be a better source...but the SHOW?!?!?!?!?!? How DARE you!!! It is the worst source in the world!
Let me try to make a point here. The GOAL of EVERY game like this: aay kind of game where the other players are opponents, the GOAL is TO WIN!!! The purpose of the game may be fun, but the goal of the game is to win! Good lord! Who would've thought! What's wrong with winning. I can have fun while running a CCCC deck, am I going to Originality hell? I feel sorry for you.

That my friends....concludes this freak show. Be sure not to become one of these flaming evangelists of Originality! (A message to the Originality crusaders) Screaming a message that "you suck! You need to change!" is just like those street corner evangelists that everyone runs away from LIKE THE PLAGUE. Leave your message behind, as it's not possible.

-My view on originality in brief:
If you think it exists, good for you, but don't try to force it on the rest fo us. I use what cards I can and need to get my hands on, and I don't play a Chaos Cookie Cutter deck thank you very much. I believe that if your deck has a theme, you should try to stick with it, but sometimes there are just some cards that are essential to excelling in tournament play.

FINALLY!!!! On to the deck!

It looks pretty good...a little Cookie Cutter, but the point is that it's powerful, and that can't be denied.

Changes:
- 1 Morphing Jar
- 1 Big Shield Gardna
- 1 Scapegoat
- 1 Nobleman of Crossout
- 1 Royal Decree (too destroyable)


+ 1 Cyber Jar (you can't not love it)
+ 1 Blade Knight
+ 1 Book of Moon
+ 1 Smashing Ground
+ 1 Jinzo (much more reliable)

Over rating of the deck 8.9/10...sheesh...long post...

Tech007: plz r/f my deck, thx: http://www.yugiohrealms.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=425355

Wow, you just proved yourself to being the biggest loser on earth...

Do you actually read some of the crap you posted? People don't throw away there money at tournaments to learn and lose. If they wanted to learn so much they would be wasting there money away on private school or college.

Nobody would give you credit for losing with an original deck. They would be like "wow, a dark magician deck lost again,what else is new?" W/e it be a Gravekeeper deck, a Relinquish deck, a Zombie Deck, w/e its ALL THE SAME THING. Its been DONE BEFORE. Everything has been playtested BY Konami before its release, EVERY IDEA HAS BEEN DONE. As much as you want attention from all your fellow duelist that you made up something before anyone else did, well too bad. Get a life, gets some friends, find something worth doing instead of making some stupid yugioh deck thats been done before.

People post to find out if there deck to see what people think of there tech and crap. Not for you to sit there and go "OMG IT HAS BLS IN IT 0/0 UNORIGINAL!!!!"

Nobody is hitting on Torrential...except maybe you,and I just like to say your not getting anywhere with him :-/

There is a VERY BIG REASON why people would run BLS. BLS is one of the most powerful cards in the game. It wins duels, hell you might as well consider it a win condition. Its very easy to bring out, it does not rely on other cards with the exception of a simple light and dark in your GRAVEYARD. No field position it needs, no running mutiples of situational cards, just proper timing. It has the ability to get rid of just about ANY monster threat and it takes no SET UP AT ALL.

With that said, why in the world wouldn't you run such a powerful card? Disregarding how it can ruin a game for your opponent or disregarding "how much unfun" to some of you it would be, why wouldn't you run it?

Its like not running pot of greed or graceful or mirror force. There is really no reason not too. They are not situational, they do not require a theme, they win games. That is enough reason to run them. So if they are not fun...omg, activate your DD Capsule instead and let it get heavy stormed, SO MUCH MORE FUN!!! Really, you can only have so much fun with cardboard...

Decks without BLS are already at a huge disadvantage. If your strategy can't fit BLS in it, already its weak unless your deck focuses on a OTK such as Last Turn or DmoC OTK.

Its really stupid for people to go on and on about how broken and how people shouldn't run BLS because its "unoriginal" but its not like they are the only person in the world with that idea in mind. But, if you have common sense and realize that BLS is one of the greatest cards in the game and run it...then thats why its ran so much.

Everyone is going to at least run 1 of the same card in there decks. Regardless of how many ban lists go ban and regardless if every good card is banned, there will be a card EVERYONE runs so those originality freaks should just drop dead or get over it.

Whats even sadder is that people think this game is for fun. Sure, its fun...but its not one bit fun when you lose. Everyone denys how winning isn't the only fun part about yugioh but they are wrong. When you lose, its gay. You feel like crap. But when you win, you feel good because you were able to win your game. Its really simple. Losing might motivate you to try harder but in the end, its just not fun.

Originality is an impossible factor, there are DIFFERENT decks than Chaos but in the end everyone is gunna run the same cards.

I bet right now all these losers are just gunna go throw my post and automatically post "omg nooo bls sux you are a n00b for trying to run it originalitity 4 life!"

*sighs*

DUDE U GOTTA CALM DOWN>>>>>No is a loser but people who call ppls loser..allrighty I am with botht thiose guys (kuriboh+torrential)all the ways so u need to sit down and shut up!!!!!1

First of all, I find it hilarious that you're using the computer form of shouting to say calm down. Secondly, please explain what "No is a lose rbut people who call ppls loser..allrighty I am with botht thiose guys (kuriboh+torrential)all the ways so u need to sit down and shut up!!!!!1" means. I mean honestly, you may have a good point to say, but it is so masked behind your horrendous spelling and grammar that it is impossible to take you seriously.