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Monster: 17
3 Gagagigo
3 Giga Gagagigo
2 Gogiga Gagagigo
2 Abyss Soldier
2 Magician of Faith
1 Tribe-Infecting Virus
1 D. D. Warrior Lady
1 Sinister Serpent
1 Morphing Jar
1 Breaker the Magical Warrior
Spell: 19
2 Big Wave Small Wave
2 Book of Moon
2 Nobleman of Crossout
2 Dark Factory of Mass Production
2 Smashing Ground
2 Serial Spell
1 Card Destruction
1 Pot of Greed
1 Graceful Charity
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Heavy Storm
1 Lightning Vortex
1 Premature Burial
Trap: 7
2 Sakuretsu Armor
1 Dust Tornado
1 Mirror Force
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Ring of Destruction
1 Call of the Haunted
k heres the big fix
Monster: 18
3 penguin soldiers
3 nigtmare penguin
3 Giga Gagagigo
2 Abyss Soldier
2 Magician of Faith
1 Tribe-Infecting Virus
1 D. D. Warrior Lady
1 Sinister Serpent
1 Morphing Jar
1 Breaker the Magical Warrior
Spell: 15
3 a legendary ocean
2 Book of Moon
1 Nobleman of Crossout
1 Card Destruction
1 Pot of Greed
1 Graceful Charity
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Heavy Storm
1 Lightning Vortex
1 Premature Burial
2 salvage
Trap: 7
3 compulsuary evacuation
1 Mirror Force
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Ring of Destruction
1 Call of the Haunted
this should work a lot better cuz the point of water is bounce the swarm for lotts of damege
Trying to help would be to improve the strategy and not post an entire different version of a water deck with different tactics. That isn't helping, that's rebuilding the deck. If you understood the deck you wouldn't have done that. So don't post on my deck threads if you don't understand the deck information.
k i dont understand y serial spell is there i think maybe a legendary ocean would help in that play so u can play giga gagio easier and power up ur water ppl and if they play gravity bind against u u can go rite under them
The deck is designed not to use ALO because of Big Wave Small Wave which is to swarm the field. Card Destruction and Serial Spell help deck the opponent slightly while dumping my Gaga monsters into the Graveyard. Dark Factory of Mass Production brings them back to my hand, thus making Big Wave Small Wave easier to use and I don't have to worry about it working or not. Since I can bring back my more powerful monsters with Dark Factory.
o sry i c now sry i was just trying to help mut i still think alo is help ful and so is penguin solder but its ur deck so ill shut up and leave this thread
Cyber Jar isn't needed. Duo isn't needed and neither are those cards you mentioned. Ceasefire? Wtc? Most of my monsters are normal mosnters, why woudl I waste the deck space for that? And then have what? 4 flip effects? -_- No thanks.
well, first I would suggest taking out Lightning Vortex. Sinister is good, yes, but there are better things you can use him for (i.e., Big Wave Small Wave). Also, you won't see many fields with lots of creatures in them, as you have torrential and mirror force here. Lightning vortex is best side-decked against massive swarm (gravekeepers, etc.), and you already have two cards to get rid of single monsters that work way better.
Also, I would take out Gogiga Gogagigo. It's big, but there are better creatures you can use...Levia Dragon comes to mind, as it is fairly big, or Suijin with its effect.
I have to say that I don't care much for the serial spell here. Milling the deck is great in a deck destruction deck, but that isn't your point...it will also kill your hand, forcing you to topdeck (since serial spell requires that you discard your entire hand), and some of these cards you have are really bad topdecks.
D.D. Warrior Lady and Breaker the Magical Warrior really don't belong here...consider Mobius for spell/trap removal?
I know you dislike ALO, but it could be useful in this deck. There is no need to make it dependent on ALO--after all, you can still summon Gagagigo without a tribute, and since you aren't running the typical G-Binds and Level limits, it doesnt really even matter if ALO gets destroyed. however, putting it in there makes it so that all of your water monsters are higher than 2000 ATK (except sinister hah :D ) and all but 2 of them can be summoned without tribute! In a pinch, that can really help you out if you don't have a BWSW in your hand.
If you insist that ALO should stay out, I'd add another Big Wave Small Wave--you only have two, and that seems to be the main way you want to get your big monsters out barring dropping their levels or wasting a premature/call on them.
Therefore, I'll put in two fixes--one that I would do with this deck and one that doesnt put in ALO:
1st fix: 41 cards
-Lightning Vortex
-2 serial spell
+Big Wave Small Wave
2nd fix: 40 cards
-Lightning Vortex
-Breaker the Magical Warrior
-2 Gogiga Gogagigo
-D.D. Warrior Lady
-2 Serial Spell
-1 Dark Factory of Mass Production
+3 ALO
+Mobius the Frost Monarch
+Levia-Dragon Daedalus
Just as a personal aside: I know that you have a specific idea for your deck, and often other people's suggestions don't fit in to that idea, but you don't have to reject their suggestions so forcefully. We are all just trying to help.