I know the rules on Shyft and formations are undergoing changes. I've heard it's to make them more like conquest. However, wouldn't it be GREAT if WK made it so a mage spawn in formation with a Shyft could use the attack or defense rating of said Shyft (similar to the Apocolypse)?

Really, aside from herding MS, the Shyft are so very weak. Wouldn't this make sense- the little buggers are mind controllers and possess dark magics and such- why couldn't they further manipulate the MS? Would this make them overpowered?

I thought of this as I was looking at my Matriarch, thinking, "Yes, she could be of use then- if my ENTIRE collection were stolen and she was all I had left." :D OK, so maybe some figs are IMUNE to rules changes/improvements. :p

Thoughts?

C

well, if sharing is at hand ...
i'd rather have the SHYFT AR and while i retain the DMG of the MS ... or SHYFT having the DMG of a MS while it retains it's own AR

Wow. Just imagine... a Swooping Invader with the Damage Value of a Flame Minion!:p

or a serpent invader with invul..and five damage!!! with the Gate Lord!!!

i think we should just abandon the shyft. they are good for nothing. so changing rules to benefit them probably isn't a good idea. i mean, does anybody even want them to be fixed?

Absolutly! They were ment to be more. Hence the high point cost. Just making them worth their points could have some subnificant impact on the game.

Not so, there are some shyfts who do have some usefulness. There is the Bondmaker and the Soulstealer who are useful with * Skeletons. And of course, Shyft figures make good projectiles to use against someone if he or she makes the comment "Mage Knight is Warhammer for dummies" :rolleyes: