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Rather than hijack or divert another thread, I thought I'd answer the question about parts breakage in a new thread.
So, if you broke a part, let us know the what, how, why, etc.
For me, I finally saw the promo ship last weekend when I went to play Mechwarrior. neat little ship. It was put together so I took it apart and put it back into its cards. Then I put it back together again. It was all together except for its pennant. With the ship sitting on the table, I put the pennant on the mast, pushed down to seat it, and the mast snapped below the uppermost sail. Bummer. I am not ham-handed normally. I have good fine motor skills, build models, paint, etc. But this time I just pushed too hard and broke the mast. Good thing the shop manager & owner like me. I glued it back together and it's OK for display...
Next time, I'll hold the mast in my hand and then put on the pennant. When folks reported these were like credit cards, they mean in size, not in material. These seem to be made of sheet styrene, and styrene is brittle.
ops32
Actually the PSM cards are not credit card sized, they are larger. They are standard card size (CCG, trading card, anything but Yu-Gi-Oh), and fit nicely in standard trading card boxes. The styrene material seems very similar to that used on credit cards, but the PSM cards are actually thicker than my credit cards. The PSM cards appear to be the same thickness and material WK used on the Mage Knight relics. By the way the MK relic cards are similiarily sized and the same proportions as credit cards, so it wouldn't surprise me if WK was using the same technology to produce credit cards in manufacturing MK relics and PSM CSG cards.
I have assembled and disassembled a handful of ships so far without any breakage problems, though I haven't yet used a pennant. Being from Chicago (Cubs, White Sox), we are not sure what a pennant is.
Rather than hijack or divert another thread, I thought I'd answer the question about parts breakage in a new thread.
So, if you broke a part, let us know the what, how, why, etc.
For me, I finally saw the promo ship last weekend when I went to play Mechwarrior. neat little ship. It was put together so I took it apart and put it back into its cards. Then I put it back together again. It was all together except for its pennant. With the ship sitting on the table, I put the pennant on the mast, pushed down to seat it, and the mast snapped below the uppermost sail. Bummer. I am not ham-handed normally. I have good fine motor skills, build models, paint, etc. But this time I just pushed too hard and broke the mast. Good thing the shop manager & owner like me. I glued it back together and it's OK for display...
Next time, I'll hold the mast in my hand and then put on the pennant. When folks reported these were like credit cards, they mean in size, not in material. These seem to be made of sheet styrene, and styrene is brittle.
ops32
Thanks for moving this into a new thread, ops! It's actually best to put the pennant on the mast before putting it on the ship, and hold the mast at the topmost sail. I also found on mine the pennant would say fairly well without being seated.
Thanks for moving this into a new thread, ops! It's actually best to put the pennant on the mast before putting it on the ship, and hold the mast at the topmost sail. I also found on mine the pennant would say fairly well without being seated.
That is really weird because I've assembled and disassembled Revenge several times and haven't had a problem with breakage. In fact, I wish some of the flashing on the card would break off so the sails would be easier to seat back in the card. I wonder if this type of plastic becomes brittle with some type of exposure (heat, cold, etc.) or if the tensile strength could be improved with some type of exposure. Anyone out there a plastics expert?
The styrene material seems very similar to that used on credit cards, .
Nope, not even close. Cut a strip off an old credit card and bend it. It'll bend, and bend, and bend (for awhile). Don't try that with any mast you want, it'll snap first time.
I'm not saying this is a bad thing. We just need to be more careful than I originally thought when people kept tossing out the credit card analogy. These aren't anything like that. Think "plastic models" if you need to describe the plastic.
ops32
well I know me personally, when i want to use a ship, it is going to stay assembled for the rest of its time with me, just because if you are constantly bending the styrene it must become a bit more brittle if u know what i mean, so once it is together it stays together, now i just have to wait till me box comes in so i can see the dang things!!!
I managed to snap the main mast on a "Pandora" that I received in my packs from Origins. My wife was on the phone with a friend at the time, and they both heard the whine....
Memo for the record: The packs come with a little instruction card that shows a picture of the masts being held by the bottom sail and rocked in to the slot on the deck. Right next to that is a picture of the mast being held by second or third sail with a big "X" over it. Guess which way I had been holding it?
Next time, I follow the instructions. I just hope I get another Pandora in my box.
Wizkids has a broken figure return policy. Go to the website and get the address and instructions and mail it back. These ships shouldn't be so fragile so I consider it a design problem and they should replace them.
I have put together and seen a Revenant put together with the same conclusion....BE VERY CAREFUL when attaching the mast located at the stern of the ship. On both occassions just below the triangular mast where attachment portion meets (pretty much right over the dice), the mast snapped in two. I am hoping this is not going to be a common problem with the 5 masters!
I have put together and seen a Revenant put together with the same conclusion....BE VERY CAREFUL when attaching the mast located at the stern of the ship. On both occassions just below the triangular mast where attachment portion meets (pretty much right over the dice), the mast snapped in two. I am hoping this is not going to be a common problem with the 5 masters!
Hold the mast LOWER when puting it in and taking it out. Where you are saying it is breaking is where you should be holding it. It only breaks there when you hold it above that point. Hold it JUST above the tab where it inserts.