So trying to come up with a good analysis of the tournament, but a couple of problems came up:

1) Is silver age just to cluttered up with (extremely) powerful cards? or are the top 8 players just that good? I mean most of those players could play a standard deck and top 8, but look at their decks. Punisher, Ahmed, Darkseid, Deadshot(?), Moloids. But then look at the names: Yapjoco, Barnes, Rivera, and Rowland. So are the decks just powerful or names just that good?

2) Hidden Injustice Gang seems to be the favored deck, if the numbers I read somewhere are correct (75%) is the deck just that good? Or, from my information fro Socal, is it just the absence of the better players? Most of the better players didn't show up for modern. So is it just the people who don't test and play the flavor of the month that skewed it? or is it that good (I know how good it is)? Do we really need a format where there is Nuclear bomb, Cockroach, everything else?

3) With this information, and the stats fro New York being too late, will Worlds just be a downer? I am seriously grateful to UDE for even giving us these tournaments, but can we really be happy how the format turned out. There is almost do doubt I'm going to Indy for WC, but will it be boring and unoriginal as Punisher, Ahmed, and Deadshot?

1. If you show up in Indianapolis, you will be playing with yourself. Pinch that squid, baby. (Worlds is in Columbus, Ohio. At Origins.)

2. I honestly don't think that a "true metagame" will be as important or as serious as it has been in the past. Kinda like trying to hang on to something that is long gone, hoping to finally be the authority on the subject, when most people will play to have fun instead of making it into some sort of serious tragedy.

3. Just like in the past, a "true metagame" can be railed against for being "boring and unoriginal" or it can be talked about with a sense of creativity.

so is there some word on the format for Origins? did you say Silver?

No, there is no word on format for Worlds. Ludin just wants to start a "this environment sucks" party. Prematurely and unneccesarily, in my opinion.

this party sucks, this party sucks.

i hope worlds is modern or else.

I know this is Modern:

But wouldn't that stuff make it to Worlds even if it was Silver? Why not?

Silver is actually slower then Modern because of Ahmed, Deadshot and the Fate. In Modern, all the good control early plays bleed you in order to use them in one way or another.

yes but kids like myself dont want to see ahmend, artifacts, and other crap like that for worlds.

Sigh not this again, no it's not a hate thread, it's a discussion thread. Go somewhere else.

So let's talk.

What do you expect to accomplish? Are you looking for other people to confirm your "fears" about a boring environment? Legitimize your expertise? How many people will it take before you are sure that it is a bad metagame that should be... what? Are you looking for bans? A format change? I don't understand what you are trying to discuss.

Andrew said "kids like myself dont want to see ahmend, artifacts, and other crap like that for worlds", and I assume that's the kind of discussion you were looking for. In that case, you are correct. I am out of it.

ahh stu i was fine talking with you today.
im just saying i would perfer modern over silver any day.

Agreed, and understood.

And, for the purpose of this discussion, let's all stay constructive, like Ben Seck said, so they will listen.

Words like "boring" and "crap" will tend to dilute and dismiss the thoughts on the subject. Expand the vocabulary and extend the influence.

Then why post? Please note that this time you are trying to start something.

It will be interesting to hear the people who played in Chicago talking about the Modern Age event. It sounds like control was dominating, but I wonder if that was because all the IG decks took turns beating each other up, preventing anyone from making top 8, or if IG is simply incapable of winning against control when it is the hunted rather than the hunter.

Speaking as someone who was actually at the Silver Age tournament, I'd say around 35-40% of the decks there were off of people's radars for the most part. There were actually a bunch of Skrull decks. Checkmate actually wasn't played in high amounts and either was Quicksilver or Deadshot. So, Chicago really isn't a good basis to pin the Metagame on.

EDIT: I will HATE IT if World's is Modern and there's a good chance I won't go. Silver would be so much better. Much more skill and deck building fun. I really don't wanna face IG Beats all day anyway.